Now that Roe has been overturned, Georgia's heartbeat law will soon go into effect.
An interesting side effect of the law is that all pregnant women in Georgia prisons will probably be set free until their children are born. The unborn child is considered a legal resident of Georgia and therefore can not be incarcerated without due process.
I don't think so ...
A Legal Resident of the United States presumes that the person has obtained Legal Permanent Residence status.
According to Georgia bill #481 - the "heartbeat law" - once a foetus has a heartbeat (around 6 weeks into the pregnancy), that foetus by law becomes a "natural person." That "person" is to be counted in population figures (as a resident of Georgia), claimed on income tax statements, and is accorded the same legal status as a person outside of the womb, including due process. After six weeks, the womb is no longer relevant to the legal definition of personhood. Basically, legally, the womb and the woman it "belongs" to both become invisible to the State of Georgia in relation to the foetus/unborn child after six weeks. The mother and child are two distinct and separate natural persons with exactly the same status and sets of rights, etc.
Same thing in Mississippi -- from the Dobbs amicus brief: "It is time to recognize, once again, the unborn children as persons in Mississippi. It is time to extend to unborn children the equal protection and due process rights they enjoyed in Mississippi [before Roe v Wade]"
Today, on the 25th of June 2022: The Pentagon stated that they will ignore the decrees of the Supreme Court.
Yes, you heard that right: part of the Executive Branch stated publicly and proudly that they will defy the Judicial Branch of the government, abandoning the concept of checks and balances within the government designed to reign in the powers of the government. Ironically, liberals on twitter seem to be happy about this development.
Today, on the 25th of June 2022: The Pentagon stated that they will ignore the decrees of the Supreme Court.
Yes, you heard that right: part of the Executive Branch stated publicly and proudly that they will defy the Judicial Branch of the government, abandoning the concept of checks and balances within the government designed to reign in the powers of the government. Ironically, liberals on twitter seem to be happy about this development.
Today, on the 25th of June 2022: The Pentagon stated that they will ignore the decrees of the Supreme Court.
Yes, you heard that right: part of the Executive Branch stated publicly and proudly that they will defy the Judicial Branch of the government, abandoning the concept of checks and balances within the government designed to reign in the powers of the government. Ironically, liberals on twitter seem to be happy about this development.
Why would the US military, whose members have given their lives protecting Americans from foreign enemies, be compelled to listen to what a handful of unelected, Ivy League elites have to say about military operations? I'm seriously asking. Why would you even want the Supreme Court going anywhere near the US military?
Today, on the 25th of June 2022: The Pentagon stated that they will ignore the decrees of the Supreme Court.
Yes, you heard that right: part of the Executive Branch stated publicly and proudly that they will defy the Judicial Branch of the government, abandoning the concept of checks and balances within the government designed to reign in the powers of the government. Ironically, liberals on twitter seem to be happy about this development.
Do you have a link for this? And I mean a link that reports someone with authority at the Pentagon actually said in substance that either (1) the Pentagon will ignore the decrees of the Supreme Court or (2) that the Pentagon will defy the Judicial Branch of the government.
The absence of a link in your original posts is very suspicious. You have a sad history here of exaggerations and misleading posts, which further heightens the suspicion regarding the accuracy of your post. You haven't been condemned as a fabricator yet, but that possibility remains unless you quickly provide the necessary evidence.
Today, on the 25th of June 2022: The Pentagon stated that they will ignore the decrees of the Supreme Court.
Yes, you heard that right: part of the Executive Branch stated publicly and proudly that they will defy the Judicial Branch of the government, abandoning the concept of checks and balances within the government designed to reign in the powers of the government. Ironically, liberals on twitter seem to be happy about this development.
Why would the US military, whose members have given their lives protecting Americans from foreign enemies, be compelled to listen to what a handful of unelected, Ivy League elites have to say about military operations? I'm seriously asking. Why would you even want the Supreme Court going anywhere near the US military?
I don't know if what Oh said is accurate, but the Supeme Court is not "going anywhere near the US military." They made a ruling and ndothing more. Why, if what Oh said is correct, would the Pentagon be compelled to make any statement concerning the ruling?
Why would the US military, whose members have given their lives protecting Americans from foreign enemies, be compelled to listen to what a handful of unelected, Ivy League elites have to say about military operations? I'm seriously asking. Why would you even want the Supreme Court going anywhere near the US military?
I don't know if what Oh said is accurate, but the Supeme Court is not "going anywhere near the US military." They made a ruling and ndothing more. Why, if what Oh said is correct, would the Pentagon be compelled to make any statement concerning the ruling?
This is what they said ...
"The Defense Department is “examining this decision closely and evaluating our policies to ensure we continue to provide seamless access to reproductive health care as permitted by federal law,” Austin said in a statement. “Nothing is more important to me or to this Department than the health and well-being of our Service members, the civilian workforce and [Defense Department] families. I am committed to taking care of our people and ensuring the readiness and resilience of our Force,” he said."
The Pentagon is evaluating its policies following the Supreme Court’s Friday decision striking down Roe v. Wade, which since 1973 had guaranteed a woman’s right to an abortion, Defe…
Why would the US military, whose members have given their lives protecting Americans from foreign enemies, be compelled to listen to what a handful of unelected, Ivy League elites have to say about military operations? I'm seriously asking. Why would you even want the Supreme Court going anywhere near the US military?
I don't know if what Oh said is accurate, but the Supeme Court is not "going anywhere near the US military." They made a ruling and ndothing more. Why, if what Oh said is correct, would the Pentagon be compelled to make any statement concerning the ruling?
Well, you seemed to believe Oh was accurate when you posted that "Lloyd Austin needs to be thrown in the stockade." (Post #24784). Maybe you are walking that back now that Oh's veracity has come into question.
Anyway, my question with regarding to the military was kind of rhetorical. I was wondering why Oh, or anyone else, would want the US military, who protect Americans from foreign enemies, to feel compelled to listen to orders from a handful of unelected, self-important lawyers? Why would that be something desirable to you, Sally? Sounds nuts to me.
I don't know if what Oh said is accurate, but the Supeme Court is not "going anywhere near the US military." They made a ruling and ndothing more. Why, if what Oh said is correct, would the Pentagon be compelled to make any statement concerning the ruling?
Well, you seemed to believe Oh was accurate when you posted that "Lloyd Austin needs to be thrown in the stockade." (Post #24784). Maybe you are walking that back now that Oh's veracity has come into question.
Anyway, my question with regarding to the military was kind of rhetorical. I was wondering why Oh, or anyone else, would want the US military, who protect Americans from foreign enemies, to feel compelled to listen to orders from a handful of unelected, self-important lawyers? Why would that be something desirable to you, Sally? Sounds nuts to me.
So what you are saying is why should any American feel compelled to abide by any Supreme Court ruling? Just ignore every Supreme Court ruling, and especially the ones they don't like? Is that what you are saying?
I don't know if what Oh said is accurate, but the Supeme Court is not "going anywhere near the US military." They made a ruling and ndothing more. Why, if what Oh said is correct, would the Pentagon be compelled to make any statement concerning the ruling?
This is what they said ...
"The Defense Department is “examining this decision closely and evaluating our policies to ensure we continue to provide seamless access to reproductive health care as permitted by federal law,” Austin said in a statement. “Nothing is more important to me or to this Department than the health and well-being of our Service members, the civilian workforce and [Defense Department] families. I am committed to taking care of our people and ensuring the readiness and resilience of our Force,” he said."
But I'm looking for what Oh stated the Pentagon said. Oh said, quite stridently, that "Today, on the 25th of June 2022: The Pentagon stated that they will ignore the decrees of the Supreme Court" and he also, again quite stridently, said that "Yes, you heard that right: part of the Executive Branch stated publicly and proudly that they will defy the Judicial Branch of the government." (Post #24783).
I haven't found anything close to that. Have you, Sally? And Oh didn't link anything either. That conspicuous absence of support, coupled with his reputation, leads me to believe he may have posted something far short of the truth. We shall see what he comes up with, but the clock is ticking.
Well, you seemed to believe Oh was accurate when you posted that "Lloyd Austin needs to be thrown in the stockade." (Post #24784). Maybe you are walking that back now that Oh's veracity has come into question.
Anyway, my question with regarding to the military was kind of rhetorical. I was wondering why Oh, or anyone else, would want the US military, who protect Americans from foreign enemies, to feel compelled to listen to orders from a handful of unelected, self-important lawyers? Why would that be something desirable to you, Sally? Sounds nuts to me.
So what you are saying is why should any American feel compelled to abide by any Supreme Court ruling? Just ignore every Supreme Court ruling, and especially the ones they don't like? Is that what you are saying?
No. No, that's not what I was saying. WTF? What I was saying (and asking) is right in the quote above. (Post #24789, 2nd para.). I've now bolded it for youabove, for clarity of reference.
So what you are saying is why should any American feel compelled to abide by any Supreme Court ruling? Just ignore every Supreme Court ruling, and especially the ones they don't like? Is that what you are saying?
No. No, that's not what I was saying. WTF? What I was saying (and asking) is right in the quote above. (Post #24789, 2nd para.). I've now bolded it for youabove, for clarity of reference.
I misread what you wrote. I thought you had said why the military or anyone else should be compelled to abide by any SC ruling. Sorry.
Why would the US military, whose members have given their lives protecting Americans from foreign enemies, be compelled to listen to what a handful of unelected, Ivy League elites have to say about military operations? I'm seriously asking. Why would you even want the Supreme Court going anywhere near the US military?
I don't know if what Oh said is accurate, but the Supeme Court is not "going anywhere near the US military." They made a ruling and ndothing more. Why, if what Oh said is correct, would the Pentagon be compelled to make any statement concerning the ruling?
What I said was what was the headline in some news outlets. In the context of articles I looked at, it didn't look like Austin specifically said those words, but rather what you copied from The Hill (which is not quite the same, but I hadn't gotten that far into researching all that was said as it was a reactionary post that I made -- hence the lack of a source link).
It's astonishing that, even though the headlines don't appear to be 100% the case of what's being said, trolls like El Runkin seemingly continue to suggest that it would be okay for parts of the government to be above the laws of the land and that it would be okay for the checks and balances that allow our government to function should be so readily tossed aside.
btw, twitter accounts on both sides that are repeating the same headline:
BREAKING NEWS: President Biden’s Pentagon defies the extremist Supreme Court, announces that it will not recognize any anti-abortion laws enacted by states as a result of the Supreme Court’s decision. RT IF YOU SUPPORT THE PENTAGON’S DECISION!
I think it is troubling that the Attorney General Garland would come out with a statement strongly condemning the SC ruling.
Yeah, I think that is troubling as well... but I was more concerned about headlines that said a part of the government is going to willfully disregard laws they don't agree with, but especially that half of the nation (which has been shouting that the other half is trying to destroy democracy and doesn't care about the integrity of the government) is celebrating the idea that parts of the Executive Branch would blatantly ignore the rulings of the Judicial Branch.
Compared to either of those things, the AG stating his and the DoJ's disagreement with the ruling seems like small potatoes in comparison.
It is disturbing to hear the reaction from the executive branch and congressional Dems in light of the ongoing Jan 6 hearings. The calls to action are troublesome. 👎👎👎👎👎
