Glass Windows wrote:
jesseriley wrote:
I’m over on the “comeback” thread, trolls welcome.
you mean the never broke 3 hour thread?
I know who Jesse is and where he claimed to break 3 hours. Believe what you will, but I don't believe him anymore than I believe Frank. Wait, what???
Looks like carp... wrote:
Pick the genuine 2:50: something marathon runners. wrote:
No, he looks like a normal 70 year old, and normal 70 year olds don't run 2:50: something marathons.
Actually to me, from the beginning he's looked like a shuffling, overdressed tortoise.
And now, with everything I know about him, he just resembles a bowel movement in trainers.
Agree 100%
jesseriley wrote:
I’m over on the “comeback” thread, trolls welcome.
What do jesseriley and I have in common.
Nothing.
I've broken 3.
Frank just got old, and can’t deal with it, can’t care about whom he’s dragging down. Sometimes, it’s a gradual process, but not usually. I’ve worked years in elder care.
Reflecting on the comments of the athletes that Dr. Meza helped mentor, his volunteer activities, his work as a physician, and his own words, I think this is a 95% good guy.
He fooked up one thing. And yes, he was pre-meditated and persistent and prolific in this fook up.
I don't know Dr. Meza, and can't explain what caused a seemingly successful and reasonably fit individual with relatively decent accomplishments to veer off--but veer off he did.
Relative to most of the rest of society, he appears to put sufficient effort into keeping himself healthy. He was able to finish the challenging Pikes Peak marathon multiple times, including a 6:11:30 in 2013 at the age of 64 (4th in his age division). Given the course and the timing mats, I have to believe that this is a legitimate performance. That's an impressive performance for a 64 yr old--probably better than what the majority of posters on this thread might be able to accomplish.
https://pikespeakmarathon.org/results/2013ppm_m.htm
If Frank is in anything close to his 2013 fitness, I suspect that he probably could have won his age division at the LA marathon this year.
Its sad to me that Dr. Meza can't seem to find satisfaction in that accomplishment. It seems like something must not be right. It would appear that something has happened to Dr. Meza in the last several years that has caused him to seek the 'drug of accomplishments for which he is not/no longer capable'. He would not be the first person to fall victim to this addiction, and he won't be the last. (I once heard the story of a cancer survivor who, dissatisfied with cheating death and returning to competitive cycling, apparently starting taking PEDs in order to win races!)
If Dr. Meza were a substance abuser, or was suffering from some other addiction that posed harm to himself or others his friends and family and those who he has mentored over the years would organize an intervention. I suspect that it may be time for that intervention.
Dr. Bland. Coach Diaz. Francisco. Its time.
Alfred K. wrote:
jesseriley wrote:
I’m over on the “comeback” thread, trolls welcome.
What do jesseriley and I have in common.
Nothing.
I've broken 3.
The irony is pretty thick. He rips on a 70 year old yet he lies as well. Why>>>EGO!
His post count shows his many insecurities. Sub 4, I'll give him that, but not sub 3, he's too big.
jesseriley wrote:
Frank just got old, and can’t deal with it, can’t care about whom he’s dragging down. Sometimes, it’s a gradual process, but not usually. I’ve worked years in elder care.
Do you tell them stories about your sub3?
For the Record... wrote:
Reflecting on the comments of the athletes that Dr. Meza helped mentor, his volunteer activities, his work as a physician, and his own words, I think this is a 95% good guy.
He fooked up one thing. And yes, he was pre-meditated and persistent and prolific in this fook up.
I don't know Dr. Meza, and can't explain what caused a seemingly successful and reasonably fit individual with relatively decent accomplishments to veer off--but veer off he did.
Relative to most of the rest of society, he appears to put sufficient effort into keeping himself healthy. He was able to finish the challenging Pikes Peak marathon multiple times, including a 6:11:30 in 2013 at the age of 64 (4th in his age division). Given the course and the timing mats, I have to believe that this is a legitimate performance. That's an impressive performance for a 64 yr old--probably better than what the majority of posters on this thread might be able to accomplish.
https://pikespeakmarathon.org/results/2013ppm_m.htmIf Frank is in anything close to his 2013 fitness, I suspect that he probably could have won his age division at the LA marathon this year.
Its sad to me that Dr. Meza can't seem to find satisfaction in that accomplishment. It seems like something must not be right. It would appear that something has happened to Dr. Meza in the last several years that has caused him to seek the 'drug of accomplishments for which he is not/no longer capable'. He would not be the first person to fall victim to this addiction, and he won't be the last. (I once heard the story of a cancer survivor who, dissatisfied with cheating death and returning to competitive cycling, apparently starting taking PEDs in order to win races!)
If Dr. Meza were a substance abuser, or was suffering from some other addiction that posed harm to himself or others his friends and family and those who he has mentored over the years would organize an intervention. I suspect that it may be time for that intervention.
Dr. Bland. Coach Diaz. Francisco. Its time.
But was Pikes Peak legit? Consider what he's already been caught cheating in, including triathlons, are we 100% certain he didn't short that race as well? It's only a question but it seems fair consider the facts and that yes, people have cheated at Pikes Peak.
People like Frank and jesseriley are the ones who elected Trump.
Ok, accomplice theorists - who is this guy pictured in sequential years in the LA marathon? Running without a visible number, not looking like he is racing or has raced - two years in a row. These are years of low 3 hr times (2012, 2013).
1st picture overall top corner, and 4th row, 4th picture in
https://www.marathonfoto.com/Proofs?PIN=K24V21&lastName=MEZA
1st row, 4th pic in, second row, 1st pic
https://www.marathonfoto.com/Proofs?PIN=925P37&lastName=MEZA
jesseriley wrote:
I’m over on the “comeback” thread, trolls welcome.
I'd disappear too if I was outed as a liar.
Why is he playing grabass with the guy in the Loyola tank top in pics 15, 16, 17? In 16 his stride is very short like he almost tripped.
I can’t believe Frank hasn’t just apologized and admitted cheating, This would not have exploded. It would have been a story, but not a bombshell.
Disclaimer: I have no evidence aside from what I’ve seen in this thread and on MarathonInvestigation’s website and haven’t looked at it in detail, so I cannot claim Frank has cheated.
General Tso wrote:
Nothing would surprise me about this whole affair anymore. But seriously, who the hell would wake up early on a weekend and waste over three hours volunteering to help someone cheat at a marathon?
People who have them call them friends. I’m truly sorry for you that you don’t grasp the concept.
Hmmmmmm? wrote:[/b
But was Pikes Peak legit? Consider what he's already been caught cheating in, including triathlons, are we 100% certain he didn't short that race as well? It's only a question but it seems fair consider the facts and that yes, people have cheated at Pikes Peak.
Link to Pike’s Peak cheaters? I saw on Meza’s most recent finish that they had several timing mats (all of which he hit).
Polpot wrote:
jesseriley wrote:
I’m over on the “comeback” thread, trolls welcome.
I'd disappear too if I was outed as a liar.
And he would have gotten away with it if he didn't go after Igloi and Smoove for calling out Amby Burfoot on his SJW reasons for not pursuing Frank.
I kind of sympathize with jesseriley, all of my PRs were run before everything was online and searchable. I couldn't prove any of them if someone asked me to. It's a big red flag that he can't name the race and date. At this point it's too late, even if he names a race that can't be verified, people will say he took so long because he was searching for a race that can't be verified.
James Taylor. wrote:
General Tso wrote:
Nothing would surprise me about this whole affair anymore. But seriously, who the hell would wake up early on a weekend and waste over three hours volunteering to help someone cheat at a marathon?
People who have them call them friends. I’m truly sorry for you that you don’t grasp the concept.
My friends would kick my ass if I asked them to help me cheat in a running event.
Friends don’t let friends race drunk (and with dementia).
Greg Chrisman wrote:
Ok, accomplice theorists - who is this guy pictured in sequential years in the LA marathon? Running without a visible number, not looking like he is racing or has raced - two years in a row. These are years of low 3 hr times (2012, 2013).
1st picture overall top corner, and 4th row, 4th picture in
https://www.marathonfoto.com/Proofs?PIN=K24V21&lastName=MEZA1st row, 4th pic in, second row, 1st pic
https://www.marathonfoto.com/Proofs?PIN=925P37&lastName=MEZA
Stay focused, folks. Take stupid sidebars to a new thread. This post is what we need! Congratulations to this poster for offering a new nugget. We have a development! Yippee!