I hear ya.
How annoying is it when everytime anyone runs something fast there is some jerk hinting around about ped usage. It spoils the moment.
The fastest man of all time was clean as a whistle. And as far as we know so is CC.
I hear ya.
How annoying is it when everytime anyone runs something fast there is some jerk hinting around about ped usage. It spoils the moment.
The fastest man of all time was clean as a whistle. And as far as we know so is CC.
Whatley wrote:
Drug test him if he passes all is cool.
Problem is that he might not be glowing anymore. Dopers avoid tests when they know that they would test positive.
Totally get that so there needs a real good story told as to how this happened, then drug test him. If he passes he is allowed to run again, if he shows up at 9.80ishm cool. If he can't break 9.95 we have a problem.
Straw man argument.
Not a generalization at all. People are starting to understand the physiological limits of the human body, and when so many of the top sprinters are busted for strong stimulants like amphetamines or similar derivatives and testosterone it starts to show what it takes to be at the top.
Your own generalizations are irrelevant. You think you connected something to disprove someones point, but you really didn't.
The guy is totally obsessed with this drug thing. That and stupid fake times dealing with the wind. A total nuisance.
Whatley wrote:
Totally get that so there needs a real good story told as to how this happened, then drug test him. If he passes he is allowed to run again, if he shows up at 9.80ishm cool. If he can't break 9.95 we have a problem.
There's no good story as to how it happened.
He skipped three tests. Not one, not two... three.
Even if he's going to "dispute" about one of them, he still skipped three tests.
The rules are clear and frankly, no one misses three tests.
There are two conclusions: he's a doper, or he's an idiot. Take your pick.
In either case he deserves the ban.
What will the limits of the human body be 30 years from now?
What were they 30 years ago?
We have HS kids right now today who could give Jesse Owens a head start and still dust him. Totally clean.
There are no limits within reason.
As you know all these guys have others booking the hotels, doing the little things. For all we know he knew nothing about the tests.
Not cool just assuming somebody is a doper or an idiot when not knowing what actuallt happened.
Deer RoeJoe:
He's not the world's fastest man, he hasn't yet won an Olympic 100m title.
P.S. weird subject line.
YES , he was doping from the start / young age .
that is how it works now with "the speed peptide " .............. IGF-1 lr3
the younger start the more chance of forcing unnatural progression of nervous system .
if look at progression of so many athletes like japanese sprinters or etc , if cant see this then lost .
although to break 60m record need more than this base dope as see where many athletes are topping out .
on some serious androgens too and iaaf all okay about this .
Prove it.
What, you have no proof? Well until you do don't go there.
again wake me up when do something about this dope .
convinced that certain people approach certain athletes with designer gear .
nobody untouchable unless an intelligence project , like bolt .
had weight of whole anglo-us intel behind him .
just they have to play game and good gear can be taken away at any stage .
wake me up when do something about doping in south africa , qatar , kenya , ethopia.
again nearly all anglo -us sphere . a fix
What really needs to happen is just say the hell with it with all that stuff that is illegal. Just zero in on the top few that are the most serious.
Let's say my excuse for missing a third test is along the lines of the following, would you ban me?
Phone rings.
"Robert, this is WADA . We are in Baltimore where you said you be available for drug testing but don't see you. Can you come outside?"
"What? You're in Baltimore? It's the week of US nationals and I'm there. Get one of your testers to test me at my hotel."
"Um. We're with WADA. That would be USADA. So we can't do that. We have to test you. here in Baltimore."
"I'll just go down to the track and get one of the testers there to test me."
"No, that doesn't work either. The rules say you if you aren't where you said you'd be at a given hour, it counts as a missed test."
"Are you crazy? This will be my third missed test. I'm going to go down to the nearest medical lab and video tape myself taking a blood and urine test to prove I'm not trying to avoid anything."
Yes I would ban you because it's explicitly outside of the rules to which I signed up to.
Shouldn't even be a question, break the rules, pay the price.
rojo wrote:
Let's say my excuse for missing a third test is along the lines of the following, would you ban me?
Phone rings.
"Robert, this is WADA . We are in Baltimore where you said you be available for drug testing but don't see you. Can you come outside?"
"What? You're in Baltimore? It's the week of US nationals and I'm there. Get one of your testers to test me at my hotel."
"Um. We're with WADA. That would be USADA. So we can't do that. We have to test you. here in Baltimore."
"I'll just go down to the track and get one of the testers there to test me."
"No, that doesn't work either. The rules say you if you aren't where you said you'd be at a given hour, it counts as a missed test."
"Are you crazy? This will be my third missed test. I'm going to go down to the nearest medical lab and video tape myself taking a blood and urine test to prove I'm not trying to avoid anything."
If it was your 3rd time... yes.
Well, obviously, as if he didn't know beforehand that the nationals would be coming up. Blatant test evasion, followed by a bluff for distraction.
So do you run, like, marathons? wrote:
Whatley wrote:
Totally get that so there needs a real good story told as to how this happened, then drug test him. If he passes he is allowed to run again, if he shows up at 9.80ishm cool. If he can't break 9.95 we have a problem.
There's no good story as to how it happened.
He skipped three tests. Not one, not two... three.
Even if he's going to "dispute" about one of them, he still skipped three tests.
The rules are clear and frankly, no one misses three tests.
There are two conclusions: he's a doper, or he's an idiot. Take your pick.
In either case he deserves the ban.
All in a 12 Month the period
Anyone know how many times this guy was tested in 2018? I just tried using the USADA page but it keeps saying he doesn't exist.
Whatley wrote:
Totally get that so there needs a real good story told as to how this happened, then drug test him. If he passes he is allowed to run again, if he shows up at 9.80ishm cool. If he can't break 9.95 we have a problem.
You're a bit dim, aren't you? If there was no sanction for missing the required number of tests runners could ignore the protocol and test only when it suits them; that isn't random testing, and would catch no cheats. Just take the test when you're no longer "glowing". Great. The message from the protocol is unequivocal: miss three tests and you'll be sanctioned for doping. Can't be clearer.