Update: Multiple Iowa State athletes suspended for season for "breaking team rules," Head coach Jeremy Sudbury confirms none from top 7

so let me see if I understand you.

If I am a clean runner on a team where some of my teammates are cheating (unbeknowst to me) you think I should also be suspended?

really?

because I should have know

or because if they are guilty I am guilty by association

or if they are cheating I must also be cheating according to the law of ______________

Test 'em all! Post race, from the finish line, through the chute, to the secure test tent. Every. Single. Athlete!

Looks like they've brought the stupid brigade in

Yes. If you are a clean athlete and multiple members of your team are doping, your team should still be suspended.

It’s not about you, it’s about the program.

Not everyone at SMU was taking money but their football program got the axe. It should happen more.

There obviously needs to be better testing at the NCAA level. With that being said though, it doesn't really seem like the repercussions are that serious. If you're a professional, you get a multiple year ban, lose a sponsorship, potentially lose titles, etc. But here you're just.. taken out for a season?! I'd like to think the "team rule" was something else other than doping, but the lack of clarification in the email is damning. Also, is there no legal or ethical obligation for the coach/school to report this to some authority, ie USADA? It seems inappropriate for a coach, who would obviously be biased, to be at the discretion of deciding the punishment such as not running the rest of the season.

I don't know the facts but nobody else does either. I don't think it's fair to assume that the coach didn't report this to other authorities, but I'd also be surprised if he's allowed to do this directly. He's probably required to report it to someone in his chain (AD?) and the AD probably has a compliance officer who is supposed to handle stuff like this. This is where someone who has actual NCAA coaching experience (rojo?!) could maybe shed some light on how stuff like this is handled.

Something like this is going to have huge legal ramifications for the university and potentially a program ban, etc, so undoubtedly lawyers are involved. The coach has probably been ordered not to admit anything and let the lawyers handle it. If, in fact, the story we all think is true is the truth (a few guys took EPO), the university is probably trying to minimize damage to itself and ensure that the athletes take the full blame. If the university is ethical, it would also be investigating to see if the coach had knowledge or if the coach had such poor control over the program that he's responsible. In that case I'd expect him to be let go.

So I read the coach's statement as "yeah, we're f'ed, and it's such a mess that I can't release any details, stay tuned for more"

"team rules"

I find it puzzling that "team rules" would include PED use if there is no actual testing. It will really be an indictment of this place if it turns out this was all about partying with street drugs/alcohol. Maybe the original mod was right?

Schools have all sorts of protocol they either can or must follow in terms of the release of information to the public. This is probably driving the wording of the information mentioned.

As far as reporting to USADA and/or WADA, even if reported I don't think those organizations can act on the test. They have their own protocol, controls, etc which they would require otherwise any suspension would likely not hold up to appeal. They can put these athletes in the testing protocol however. Even that might be odd because these athletes are not within the realm of athletes USADA or WADA would test...IOW they aren't good enough.

Haddonfield has been sus for decades

Test the U of Florida women. Coach Palmer has had multiple athletes test positive for EPO!!!!

Yeah, but at Nuttycombe Seth ran 23:37, just 7 seconds behind Valentin Soca, a 13:00 runner. He was just 39 seconds behind Samuel, a sub 27:00 guy. Seth's run at Nuttycombe was equal, at least, to a 27:50 track 10,000, much better than his 14:24/5000 pb. Just saying.

Clevenger's case is ongoing. Rumors point to EPO purchase, but final evidence not yet established. Give Seth (a nutrition science major) the chance to defend himself.

I'm 99% confident that the Kenyans on Iowa State's team are clean. They'd have too much to lose by doping. USA is their golden ticket to a life of prosperity and support to their families. The Kenyan dudes are humble and God fearing (Christians).

Of course, some posters will think my beliefs are wishful thinking. So be it.

Yep. It is amazing how in the midst of Valby's insane performances one of her teammates got busted and no one thought anything of it. When athletes at any level see an athlete cash in by doping and see that athlete rewarded and celebrated, you get the Mark Mcguire effect.

The operative word here is "volunteer". If they are "working" for you - then pay them. You;ll get better work.

This is Trump's America.

Honestly, with how popular and normalized drug and steroid use is with the younger generation because of influencers like Togi, Alex Eubank, and Tren Twins…I can imagine that even young runners can develop the same attitude toward other PEDs(like EPO).