I found the exact coords that this run started and compiled pace and HR. Leviston only had Av HR and Av cadence. Pace discrepancies because of 9 mins stoppage in that 14k. '652' = 6:52/km
There’s a guy who commented on yesterday’s run - James Leviston - who ran 10 miles or so with him and has the activity on his Strava. Would be interesting to know what Goodges heart rate and cadence was for that stretch but I’m not smart enough to marry the two up
Yeah, on the US Transcon a British Olympian ran briefly with Goodge. Amusingly the Goodge camp tried to use this as further verification of the run being genuine, but the Olympian reported that Goodge asked if they could slow down because he couldn't maintain the pace while he had company.
er.no. shaking my watch has no effect on the hr reading.
the point is his results are consistent in their inconsistency. supervised = high hr. not supervised = low hr.
Past few days he has run the first 30km and his hr steadily increases, then it just goes straight to 100 ish and stays there. a wrist hr is more than capable of giving proper results in those conditions, esp as evidenced by the first 30. so the rest of the time he has found another solution but cant be arsed with the higher hr, since he knows that dummies willbeleive the unreiable wrist hr nonsense.
why doesnt he just wear a chest hr for a few days? because when it goes over 140 all the time or thereabouts, it will show its not the wrist monitor, its cheating. its too simple a solution not to do it, so it shows he needs the supposed 'reasonable doubt' of the wrist hr. nonsense.
why doesnt he just wear a chest hr for a few days? because when it goes over 140 all the time or thereabouts, it will show its not the wrist monitor, its cheating. its too simple a solution not to do it, so it shows he needs the supposed 'reasonable doubt' of the wrist hr. nonsense.
I’d like to see better data from Goodge but you can’t expect someone to wear a chest strap for multiple 12+ hour days.
ok, i have put James Leviston and W Goodges strava run for 29 April side by side. its quite easy to do. they run from just after a lake into the indiginous protected zone. km pace pretty consistent 6.43 to 7:11. JL's HR is exactly as you would expect, up and down bit but consistently north of 135 and up to 160 are for a bit. totally as a human.
goodge continues subhuman with hr consistently low 100s and max 112. even on 10% grade = 101.
cadences; goodge 174, James 161. steady for both. James ran 700km last year. most of his short pbs are in a car (or even a speedboat), but his 10 mile is comparable to mine, so his figures for 29 april seem sound.
James is also obviously a fanboi and has posted pictures.
Interestingly, WG posted on his Instagram stories last night showing a visibly swollen achilles. This at least suggests he must at least be running some pretty decent mileage. Still begs the question how much of it is he actually running, but i would assume a fair bit to pull an injury like that. Keen to see some shots of his toes next...
At this distance, an Achilles problem is a classic over use / under trained injury. It's likely due to road camber and shoe wear but these are things you train away well in advance of a record attempt like this.
If it can be shown that the data comes from a device he is wearing then it is evidence of a tech fail. If there’s a tech fail then there should be a backup device to provide evidence of completion of each run. The record custodians are hardly going to accept data from a failing device as the only evidence.
If it can be shown that the data comes from a device he is wearing then it is evidence of a tech fail. If there’s a tech fail then there should be a backup device to provide evidence of completion of each run. The record custodians are hardly going to accept data from a failing device as the only evidence.
The fan boys will say 10 miles is proof enough for a 2400 mile run.
Has anyone considered comparing Ned Brockmanns HR data during his Aus Transcon run to WG's. I've selected a random day from during NB's Aus run whereby their pace is somewhat similar. Looking at NB's strava on 2nd October 2022 we can see he recorded:
Avg HR: 107 bpm
Avg Pace: 7:46 mins per km
WG yesterday (06 May 2025) he recorded:
Avg HR: 101 bpm
Avg Pace: 7:18 mins per km
Obviously WG's HR numbers are better and he ran a 28 second quicker pace, but it doesn't seem like a massive HR variance between the two given WG is probably fitter than what would have been a relatively inexperienced NB at the time.
I think the main issue people are having is the HR seems to be "normal" for the first 15 to 20k or so each day...then flat lines around 100 until the last 10k or so with no noticeable changes in pace/elevation etc to cause this.
If he was just fit enough to have a low 100's HR at these paces, then you'd expect to see that from the start.
I think the main issue people are having is the HR seems to be "normal" for the first 15 to 20k or so each day...then flat lines around 100 until the last 10k or so with no noticeable changes in pace/elevation etc to cause this.
If he was just fit enough to have a low 100's HR at these paces, then you'd expect to see that from the start.
That and a dismissive attitude to any concerns. The impression given is one of arrogance and bravado.
I wonder how much of this is accidental and due to the entrenchment of a public persona early in the process - difficult for him now to do anything but tough it out, especially if he's insisted to their sponsors that there's nothing to investigate. I suspect that in his mind it would be a sign of weakness to admit that there are valid concerns.
Or the plan could just be to keep the money rolling in for as long as possible.
Many ultrarunning enthusiasts are scratching their heads wondering why he isn't inviting more scrutiny - releasing unedited video, full data for multiple days, inviting journalists to observe, communicating more publicly (not just on platforms that require accounts to view).
There’s a guy who commented on yesterday’s run - James Leviston - who ran 10 miles or so with him and has the activity on his Strava. Would be interesting to know what Goodges heart rate and cadence was for that stretch but I’m not smart enough to marry the two up
Yeah, on the US Transcon a British Olympian ran briefly with Goodge. Amusingly the Goodge camp tried to use this as further verification of the run being genuine, but the Olympian reported that Goodge asked if they could slow down because he couldn't maintain the pace while he had company.
Worth noting that said Olympian was retired and incredibly out of shape 😂😂😂
In today’s episode of Goodge (7 May 25), there is quite a strange portion from 94km - 104km where his cadence jumps to 178-180spm, after averaging ~172-174spm the rest of the run without a meaningful increase in pace.
If any typical runner was doing this attempt, they’d be that caught up in confirming the legitimacy of this thing, that they’d revert to multiple devices, data sources, video evidence for the entire running portions.
No doubt he’s running, it’s just whether he’s running 20km a day, 50km a day, or 110km a day as he’s claiming.
In today’s episode of Goodge (7 May 25), there is quite a strange portion from 94km - 104km where his cadence jumps to 178-180spm, after averaging ~172-174spm the rest of the run without a meaningful increase in pace.
If any typical runner was doing this attempt, they’d be that caught up in confirming the legitimacy of this thing, that they’d revert to multiple devices, data sources, video evidence for the entire running portions.
No doubt he’s running, it’s just whether he’s running 20km a day, 50km a day, or 110km a day as he’s claiming.
INEOS bringing out Kipchoge to prop this run up. Must not be moving too many fake Land Rovers off the lots.