I don't have to provide a quote. I do my own research. I don't do it for yokels who expect others to do it for them, like you.
If you make the allegation, you need to back it up. The onus is on you. Without backing it up, it's just an ill-informed opinion.
No, it isn't. I come here to state my views, which are based on my own reading and researches, not to persuade you or anyone else here - and especially those who don't want to face what has happened to the sport.
It isn't the WADA quote, which I would have to search for to find again, but it makes essentially the same point about the seriousness of doping in running.
"Athletics has been linked to doping more than any other sport except cycling. The doping problem in athletics, and in the middle- and long-distance events particularly, is clearly demonstrated in the latest statistics from the Athletics Integrity Unit (AIU)."
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WADA did say it. It is just you have never read it because your "research" is confined to what you already believe.
The numbers of tests don't indicate the incidence of doping - some sports and some countries test more than others - and nor do the positives, since most dopers escape being caught.
But the basis of your argument is the supremely stupid claim that if you don't know something it doesn't exist. You are, after all, the authority on all things - from your keyboard.
I only have your word that these were WADA's words. Given your history of failing to connect your words to reality, having you effectively argue "Uh-huh!" or "Did so!" falls far short of convincing me that WADA said anything remotely comparable.
My research is also confined by your consistent refusal to expand it on request.
We weren't talking about "incidence of doping" or whether "dopers escape being caught", but about "Track is indistinguishable from tour cycling now. Actually, it was WADA that said that. It lumps running together with bodybuilding and weightlifting, as well as cycling."
My research is wide enough that it contains WADA's officially published reports which say the contrary -- it is quite easy to distinguish athletics from bodybuilding, weightlifing as well as cycling, based on standard metrics that WADA has and has officially published.
This idea that you can know something that doesn't exist is something that forms the basis of religions. The "supremely stupid claim" that nothing exists if it is not known, is, on the contrary, fundamental to advancing what we do know with reasonable certainty. It is often referred to as the null hypothesis. This forces the claimant (i.e. you) to establish that whatever relation he claims exists is not spurious.
If you make the allegation, you need to back it up. The onus is on you. Without backing it up, it's just an ill-informed opinion.
No, it isn't. I come here to state my views, which are based on my own reading and researches, not to persuade you or anyone else here - and especially those who don't want to face what has happened to the sport.
You didn't just come here to state your views, but you attributed them to WADA.
Without the exact quote in full context, the only possible conclusion is that these are your own personal views, and that WADA never said anything close to what you understood based on your "own reading and researches".
No, it isn't. I come here to state my views, which are based on my own reading and researches, not to persuade you or anyone else here - and especially those who don't want to face what has happened to the sport.
You didn't just come here to state your views, but you attributed them to WADA.
Without the exact quote in full context, the only possible conclusion is that these are your own personal views, and that WADA never said anything close to what you understood based on your "own reading and researches".
Since I am not a full time apologist (as you are for dopers) I don't record everything that I read so that I can spout it on a running site. The WADA quote I have referred to essentially confirms the point in the study I posted above, which couldn't have made the claim it did - that running is one of the worst sports for doping - if it was contradicted by WADA. Since you have no previous knowledge of that study it shows the selectiveness, the partiality and indeed the deficiencies in your own research.
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Athletics has been linked to doping more than any other sport except cycling. The doping problem in athletics, and in the middle- and long-distance events particularly, is clearly demonstrated in the latest statistics from the Athletics Integrity Unit (AIU). Of the 465 athletes currently suspended from competing in athletics worldwide, 258 (55.5%) are middle- or long-distance runners (Athletics Integrity Unit, 2021). In the past three summer Olympic Games (2008, 2012, 2016), 108 medals were awarded in the endurance track events (800 m—marathon) and 15 of those medals (13.9 %) were won by athletes who have at one time served a doping suspension. A further 18 of the medals (16.7 %) were won by athletes who have been personally coached by someone who has been charged with doping offences. Another 60 medals (55.6%) were won by athletes from countries whose National Anti-Doping Organisation (NADO) has been declared non-compliant or been placed on the watch list, or whose Doping Control laboratory has had its accreditation suspended by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) at one point. These figures indicate that significant levels of doping are present at the highest level of endurance athletics, which creates a vicious circle. Both the true and perceived prevalence of doping make athletics “high risk” for doping.
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Since I am not a full time apologist (as you are for dopers) I don't record everything that I read so that I can spout it on a running site. The WADA quote I have referred to essentially confirms the point in the study I posted above, which couldn't have made the claim it did - that running is one of the worst sports for doping - if it was contradicted by WADA. Since you have no previous knowledge of that study it shows the selectiveness, the partiality and indeed the deficiencies in your own research.
Of course I have previous knowledge of this study. I have already read it some time ago. As the title says, it is qualitative, not quantitative, and explores the perceptions and views of clean athletes regarding doping and anti-doping. It is about fuzzy feelings and opinions and beliefs and motivations.
I am interested in several papers from Prof. Andrea Petroczi. She also co-authored the much discussed "anonymized survey" based on the UQM model, and a competing "anonymized survey" using the SSC model, for the same 2011 WCA and PAG populations. She subsequently conducted research on the Extended Crosswise Model.
Without a quote, and given your history and tendency to distort what you read, I can only conclude that WADA said something else, and you are oblivious that you are an unwitting link in the chain of the Telephone Game.
Recall you attributed to WADA a claim that these four sports were "indistinguishable" and "lumped together" by WADA. Yet WADA testing and ADRV reports can distinguish these sports from each other, and from all other sports.
The quote from the study you posted says something else quite different from your alleged WADA quote -- just that the levels of doping in athletics is "significant" -- something no one contests. It singles out athletics, similarly suggesting that it can be distinguished from these other sports.
Athletics has been linked to doping more than any other sport except cycling. The doping problem in athletics, and in the middle- and long-distance events particularly, is clearly demonstrated in the latest statistics from the Athletics Integrity Unit (AIU). Of the 465 athletes currently suspended from competing in athletics worldwide, 258 (55.5%) are middle- or long-distance runners (Athletics Integrity Unit, 2021). In the past three summer Olympic Games (2008, 2012, 2016), 108 medals were awarded in the endurance track events (800 m—marathon) and 15 of those medals (13.9 %) were won by athletes who have at one time served a doping suspension. A further 18 of the medals (16.7 %) were won by athletes who have been personally coached by someone who has been charged with doping offences. Another 60 medals (55.6%) were won by athletes from countries whose National Anti-Doping Organisation (NADO) has been declared non-compliant or been placed on the watch list, or whose Doping Control laboratory has had its accreditation suspended by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) at one point. These figures indicate that significant levels of doping are present at the highest level of endurance athletics, which creates a vicious circle. Both the true and perceived prevalence of doping make athletics “high risk” for doping.
Rekrunner says this study, which indicates the seriousness of doping in athletics based on data from the AIU, is just about "fuzzy feelings". In that case the laws of gravity are also just "fuzzy feelings".
"According to 2019 statistics compiled by the WADA, the highest number of anti-doping rule violations (ADRV) by sport were in bodybuilding, athletics (such as track and field), cycling, and weightlifting. Together, these sports comprised more than half of all ADRVs."
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