Who cares if there is a biological man in the women’s locker room. The women cannot look away? What is wrong with you Republicans who suddenly feel that people need big government to step in?
Your racism shows for your lame attempt to masculinization Michelle Obama relying on racist tropes and your attempt to castrate the black man Barack Obama. You need therapy. Your racism is not welcome.
Would you be happier if I had used Hillary and Bill as my examples? The Obamas are more recent, hence I thought more relevant.
I've said this before but we don't need fewer trans men destroying women in women's sports, we need a HUGE wave of men dressing as women destroying women in women's sports.
As long as this just one guy here, another guy there it can be ignored and explained away. I'd love to see an NCAA final of nothing but men running in the women's 100m, or Oly 100m would be even better.
It will take an extreme situation to be rid of this extreme idiocy.
Unfortunately you’re probably right. A certain poster whose name references the mascot of a school in Southern California is a good representative of the attitude, “oh but it’s just a few athletes stop worrying about it!” One is too many, but the current relative rarity allows people to look the other way. Well, that plus the absolute Nazism of the trans cult and the perception that they can shatter the reputation of anyone who speaks out publicly against them. But they’re still powerless, marginalized, etc. of course.
How about we don’t know if black people are inherently criminal and unintelligent, so we should segregate them? I assume you don’t think it’s racist?
Your “book” doesn’t apply coz we are talking women getting naked, not men.
I do think that would be racist, because you would be making an assumption that people of one skin color are inherently worse than others. In this case, I am not assuming that transwomen are better or worse than anyone else, I am saying we don't know until we know the individual.
On your second point, you are wrong, I am talking about Lia Thomas, who has XY chromosomes and a penis, and is fully a man, but who has chosen to identify as female. Why do you think Lia Thomas is a woman? Because Lia said so? Is that all it takes?
Are you reading your own logic? By your logic, I (the strawman me) didn’t assume anything worse of blacks, just expressed neutral agnosticism until we know the individual.
I have a different worldview and your English isn’t even computing for me, so you are worse than wrong. Wrong can at least be corrected.
I'm male and if a female that identified as male was walking around naked in my locker room I just wouldn't care. I wouldn't have cared when I was HS age, college age, or as an adult. I'm in there to change, possibly shower, and get the heck out. It just isn't any different the other way around.
Your racism shows for your lame attempt to masculinization Michelle Obama relying on racist tropes and your attempt to castrate the black man Barack Obama. You need therapy. Your racism is not welcome.
Would you be happier if I had used Hillary and Bill as my examples? The Obamas are more recent, hence I thought more relevant.
Your racism is odious. The Trumps were more recent yet. Why the racism?
Gay people exist too, so even in same sex locker rooms there could be the attraction problem.
Attraction, yes, but there is a power difference between men and women that is not present in same-sex locker rooms.
The number of buff gay men who can easily overpower the many skinny or weak men or boys, especially those on these boards, likely substantially outnumbers the fraction of transwomen in the population, so there is a widely prevalent physical power difference in men’s locker rooms too.
They are simps. No point educating them. Their reasoning ability can not go beyond “just because I feel like a chair doesn’t make me a chair”.
Their kind used to question gay marriage with equally simpy premises like “what’s next, people marrying their pets?”. Now those people have been relegated to wallow in silent stupidity as the world just moved past them.
It's telling that you use the "exclusionary" and inaccurate term "gay marriage" favored by the right wing for what is actually same-sex legal marriage.
FYI: not everyone in a same-sex marriage is, or will be, in a "gay marriage." It's actually pretty common for gay men and lesbians who enter same-sex marriages to marry bisexuals; and lots of bisexuals in same-sex marriages are married to other bisexuals.
Moreover, same-sex civil marriage is now an option as open to persons who are heterosexual and asexual as to people who are lesbian, gay or bi.
Although extending equal marriage rights under the law to same-sex couples marked a great victory for LGB civil rights, it also means that the sexual orientation of the two partners in a marriage in countries like the USA is now legally irrelevant.
I'm male and if a female that identified as male was walking around naked in my locker room I just wouldn't care. I wouldn't have cared when I was HS age, college age, or as an adult. I'm in there to change, possibly shower, and get the heck out. It just isn't any different the other way around.
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They are simps. No point educating them. Their reasoning ability can not go beyond “just because I feel like a chair doesn’t make me a chair”.
Their kind used to question gay marriage with equally simpy premises like “what’s next, people marrying their pets?”. Now those people have been relegated to wallow in silent stupidity as the world just moved past them.
It's telling that you use the "exclusionary" and inaccurate term "gay marriage" favored by the right wing for what is actually same-sex legal marriage.
FYI: not everyone in a same-sex marriage is, or will be, in a "gay marriage." It's actually pretty common for gay men and lesbians who enter same-sex marriages to marry bisexuals; and lots of bisexuals in same-sex marriages are married to other bisexuals.
Moreover, same-sex civil marriage is now an option as open to persons who are heterosexual and asexual as to people who are lesbian, gay or bi.
Although extending equal marriage rights under the law to same-sex couples marked a great victory for LGB civil rights, it also means that the sexual orientation of the two partners in a marriage in countries like the USA is now legally irrelevant.
Nobody cares about your inaccuracies shtick. Learn to read and to write concisely first.
I'm male and if a female that identified as male was walking around naked in my locker room I just wouldn't care. I wouldn't have cared when I was HS age, college age, or as an adult. I'm in there to change, possibly shower, and get the heck out. It just isn't any different the other way around.
Haha that will be a thing soon, if it isn’t already.
We're at the beginning stages of transhumanism. The core belief of the current trans movement is that humans can and should use technology to mould the body in accordance with a person's subjective sense of self. Some transhumanists want to become immortal by merging with technology, but in the current moment, most people beating the drum about trans are simply caught up in the idea that our thoughts supercede material reality. We're at the castration/death cult phase: you're not castrating your child or yourself, you're providing life-saving care. But it won't stop with transgender. There will be other body modifications sold to us as the panacea for various forms of existential dread.
Transspecies is a thing. Look up "otherkin," though most people in this movement seem to identify as fantasy creatures and not actual animals.
Attraction, yes, but there is a power difference between men and women that is not present in same-sex locker rooms.
That's fair.
This whole thing still strikes me as a little funny. Being expected to be naked and/or see naked people if they're the same sex = fine. Throw in one naked body from the opposite sex = time to panic.
But I can appreciate that size and strength differences can make this particular dynamic with Lia Thomas different.
No, the issue is not "throw in one naked body from the opposite sex = time to panic."
The issue here is how girls and women are affected when we have to get undressed and showered in the presence and under the gaze of a naked adult or teenage male who is much larger, stronger and faster than us like Lia Thomas is compared to the female people Thomas was thrown in with like Riley Gaines.
Putting a big strapping virile young adult male like Thomas in the women's locker room and showers will inevitably cause the girls and women there to feel uncomfortable and threatened because a in addition to having male size, strength and speed, a male person like Thomas has a dick he can use as a weapon to rape and perhaps impregnate. Moreover, a male the age of Thomas will have typical male sex drive, sexual aggression, lustful thoughts, roving eyes, etc.
If you put a naked female the same age as Lia Thomas in a locker room full of naked boys and men, and only boys and men, the males won't be at any risk from her. But she will be at great risk from them. Chances are she'll end up being gang-raped.
The physical differences between the two sexes - including the fact that rape with a penis is only a crime that males can commit, and only females can get pregnant from rape - mean the risks for males and females in these situations are nowhere near the same.
This whole thing still strikes me as a little funny. Being expected to be naked and/or see naked people if they're the same sex = fine. Throw in one naked body from the opposite sex = time to panic.
But I can appreciate that size and strength differences can make this particular dynamic with Lia Thomas different.
No, the issue is not "throw in one naked body from the opposite sex = time to panic."
The issue here is how girls and women are affected when we have to get undressed and showered in the presence and under the gaze of a naked adult or teenage male who is much larger, stronger and faster than us like Lia Thomas is compared to the female people Thomas was thrown in with like Riley Gaines.
Putting a big strapping virile young adult male like Thomas in the women's locker room and showers will inevitably cause the girls and women there to feel uncomfortable and threatened because a in addition to having male size, strength and speed, a male person like Thomas has a dick he can use as a weapon to rape and perhaps impregnate. Moreover, a male the age of Thomas will have typical male sex drive, sexual aggression, lustful thoughts, roving eyes, etc.
If you put a naked female the same age as Lia Thomas in a locker room full of naked boys and men, and only boys and men, the males won't be at any risk from her. But she will be at great risk from them. Chances are she'll end up being gang-raped.
The physical differences between the two sexes - including the fact that rape with a penis is only a crime that males can commit, and only females can get pregnant from rape - mean the risks for males and females in these situations are nowhere near the same.
Tell us you hate men without saying you hate men. What happened to you? Have you been/are you in therapy?
No, the issue is not "throw in one naked body from the opposite sex = time to panic."
The issue here is how girls and women are affected when we have to get undressed and showered in the presence and under the gaze of a naked adult or teenage male who is much larger, stronger and faster than us like Lia Thomas is compared to the female people Thomas was thrown in with like Riley Gaines.
Putting a big strapping virile young adult male like Thomas in the women's locker room and showers will inevitably cause the girls and women there to feel uncomfortable and threatened because a in addition to having male size, strength and speed, a male person like Thomas has a dick he can use as a weapon to rape and perhaps impregnate. Moreover, a male the age of Thomas will have typical male sex drive, sexual aggression, lustful thoughts, roving eyes, etc.
If you put a naked female the same age as Lia Thomas in a locker room full of naked boys and men, and only boys and men, the males won't be at any risk from her. But she will be at great risk from them. Chances are she'll end up being gang-raped.
The physical differences between the two sexes - including the fact that rape with a penis is only a crime that males can commit, and only females can get pregnant from rape - mean the risks for males and females in these situations are nowhere near the same.
Tell us you hate men without saying you hate men. What happened to you? Have you been/are you in therapy?
Tbh I wouldn't want naked women in the men's locker rooms either. Does that mean I hate women?