xcfan2728 wrote:
Maybe because its a prelim? If Hocker did what Wightman did, you would be in here talking about him burning himself out in a prelim. You continue to move the goalposts everytime Hocker has success. Tool.
You are obviously an idiot. How on earth is it moving the goals post. You have some seriously convoluted logic up in that brain to go from the outcome of that semi final to the exact opposite.
I mean Kipsang’s been on fire this year. Incorrect to say he’s come out of nowhere.
He’s in the AIU database so he’s being tested OOC and in-competition he’s been racing a ton. No reason to believe he’ll get popped. He is a converted 800 runner who was 4th in the African games in 2019 before moving up in distance.
You can say he’s dirty but it would be likely whatever he’s doing will continue to evade detection. With Katir you can have more suspicion I suppose as we just do not know his OOC testing situation except AIU has remarkably not have him in the program which should’ve changed as soon as he won a DL.
AP5000 wrote:
LynxThursday wrote:
Yes, just reviewed the footage of the first semi-final. Hocker may have had an extra gear but he was working hard. On the other hand, Whiteman was striding out with ease and Cheruiyot was very relaxed, almost seemed to be jogging. Both had several gears.
This is an accurate assessment.
I don't get picking Hocker over Wightman in a race he just lost to Wightman in by a decent margin.
I agree. That why in my earlier post I state rojo’s title was misleading.
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THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
I mean Kipsang’s been on fire this year. Incorrect to say he’s come out of nowhere.
He’s in the AIU database so he’s being tested OOC and in-competition he’s been racing a ton. No reason to believe he’ll get popped. He is a converted 800 runner who was 4th in the African games in 2019 before moving up in distance.
You can say he’s dirty but it would be likely whatever he’s doing will continue to evade detection. With Katir you can have more suspicion I suppose as we just do not know his OOC testing situation except AIU has remarkably not have him in the program which should’ve changed as soon as he won a DL.
I agree here.
Besides, who says Hocker is clean? Cuz he's white? Doesn't he live danger close to the Burrito Track Club? It's weird that the Hocker Fan Club assumes he's clean but people think Kipsang is doping simply because he's African even though he has no failed drug tests.
Sopa de SabadelI wrote:
I myself am more of a Wightman / Kerr fan, yet still can acknowledge, that they most likely will get beat by Tim, Kipsang and probably Jakob.
Wightman won his semi looking great, and he comfortably beat Kipsang by nearly a whole second when he raced him this season. Why will he "most likely" get beat by him?
Some group(s) of Americans despise other Americans who cheer for someone that doesn't look like them. Skin color is sooo important according to the MSM and current administration.
Hard to say who is clean or dirty in this field
GB, Kenya, Spain, are all suspicious in my opinion.
Hocker is very young, but that doesn’t mean he is clean. I give him the benefit of the doubt however as I feel like it would be harder to dope in college living with a house full of other athletes that might call you out.
Hoare and McSweyn I think are clean.
Jakob has been a phenom since such a young age so he has either been doping since a kid or is clean.
Rozmys and Grethen I know absolutely nothing about
Most of you never have been bros put way too much stock in who looked good in heats and how the races played out.
The final is a entirely different thing.
It’s a new race. It’s a new day. Some will be fatigued from the rounds. Some won’t.
Get your ass to a TV really early Saturday morning and see what happens.
Nine athletes including Centrowitz ran faster in the other heat. So he is currently down at the bottom. The race still has to be run. I still think he is a long shot for a medal.
Had the easier heat. Let’s see a Gold. I’m not counting on it.
He had the harder heat in fact. There were only 5 spots instead of 7th and you had the Kenyan and Ethiopian champions instead of a badly rigging guy from Luxembourg and the British #3 who got dropped by the pack
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Well just caught the semis again. Jakob and Tim looked the easiest and in complete control. Wightman and Kipsang looked good but they were both making a statement and working a bit more than those two. For the Kerr fans you just gotta hope he completely fixes the tactics cuz he was working way harder than people he’s being expected to beat like Hocker. McSweyn looked good but not much of a gear shift which makes me think he waits longer to take the lead.
Yes Saturday is a new day so we shall see.
Jacob will win and take a piss on hocker collapsed on the ground
rojo wrote:
But he hasn't run fast... Fair enough but
His pb is now 3:33.....
He made the right decision. If you look closely at Strava, you will see many runners suffered in performance after the thing that cannot be freely discussed. One of them missed qualifying IMO.
PMellyhenepics wrote:
Jacob will win and take a piss on hocker collapsed on the ground
I think he would get jail time for that, but I could be wrong.
the easier heat/slower race people are the same people that literally thought his ceiling was 335 because that was his pb. i dont understand how someone could be so daft. i guess now he is just a 333 guy so obviously he cant contend in a 330-331 race (imo the winning time) cant wait to find out!
Nope... wrote:
PMellyhenepics wrote:
Jacob will win and take a piss on hocker collapsed on the ground
I think he would get jail time for that, but I could be wrong.
It’s a Norwegian thing.
Hocker's time was slower than Centrowitz's time.