Katir stays HOT - 7:27.64 Spanish national record for 3000.

Armstronglivs wrote:

no contest wrote:

I have nothing written someone can disagree with.

Once you have written something - anything - it is capable of being disagreed with. Unless you are the "I am always right" narcissist you likely are.

I habe just written facts.

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Katir is racing just the 5,000 and I agree it will be tough but not impossible to medal. He is the fastest at 1,500 perhaps but Wale, Kiplimo, Cheptegei, even Jakob (if he runs) all have the potential to be in sub-12:40 fitness. Then there is a crowded group at around his level in Ahmed, Knight, Kimeli, Ethiopian/Kenyan second placers and so on. Katir does get a break in no Barega or Kejelcha to contend with.

Largely agree, but Wale is definitely overrated in my view. He only ran 12:53 at the trials and I've not seen him close hard. He has that amazing indoor 3000 but that was the result of an error by Girma miscounting laps. I'm also unsure about Cheptegei who has looked off form since his 10000 record. I'd have Kiplimo as a clear favourite, then the bunch that you mention. Katir looks to have the strongest close of all of them so I can see him winding up with a silver

Passant wrote:

fnhriel wrote:

As a Spaniard, Viciosa is a racist POS. Pot black. He should never have even had the 3000m record.

Basically the Spanish stated the 70% of "white" hatred that was showed in these forums the last weeks.

I hope Katir remain careful in the next weeks. He is a man in a key position today (for good or worse).

Says the man who thinks 'the Jew' has too much power, that there is a white conspiracy against North African athletes, that has threatened to doxx people here, and who has issued thinly veiled threats.

Passant wrote:

fnhriel wrote:

As a Spaniard, Viciosa is a racist POS. Pot black. He should never have even had the 3000m record.

Basically the Spanish stated the 70% of "white" hatred that was showed in these forums the last weeks.

I hope Katir remain careful in the next weeks. He is a man in a key position today (for good or worse).

Interesting, I hope he gets busted.

Charlie Chaplin wrote:

Says the man who thinks 'the Jew' has too much power, that there is a white conspiracy against North African athletes, that has threatened to doxx people here, and who has issued thinly veiled threats.

Do you want a twitter page of an Israelite guy of Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies that propage this kind of ideas? I have been reading all the way his tweets months before starting posting here.

But let's stay away from Politics...

(of my true believes you only know the superficial form).

Subway Surfers wrote:

Passant wrote:

Basically the Spanish stated the 70% of "white" hatred that was showed in these forums the last weeks.

I hope Katir remain careful in the next weeks. He is a man in a key position today (for good or worse).

Interesting, I hope he gets busted.

Interesting, you hope he is a cheater and gets busted? I hope he is clean and will have a good career. But I'm sceptical.

restrunner wrote:

Subway Surfers wrote:

Interesting, I hope he gets busted.

Interesting, you hope he is a cheater and gets busted? I hope he is clean and will have a good career. But I'm sceptical.

We know he's almost certainly a cheater, we hope he'll get busted, because the sport is dead if it can't catch obvious dopers like him.

Passant wrote:

Charlie Chaplin wrote:

Says the man who thinks 'the Jew' has too much power, that there is a white conspiracy against North African athletes, that has threatened to doxx people here, and who has issued thinly veiled threats.

Do you want a twitter page of an Israelite guy of Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies that propage this kind of ideas? I have been reading all the way his tweets months before starting posting here.

But let's stay away from Politics...

(of my true believes you only know the superficial form).

So you follow a guy on Twitter just because he propounds anti-semitic conspiracy theories that are popular in the Arab world, but it's OK because he's Jewish himself?

Armstronglivs wrote:

Katir's improvement from 3:36 to 3:28 is extreme.

14 3:48.37 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Stockholm 30 Jul 15

15 3:42.44 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Oslo 9 Jun 16

16 3:39.92 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Stockholm 18 Jun 17

17 3:31.18 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Monaco 20 Jul 18

drtoneill wrote:

I had to laugh! Cut off your hair ... go on ... and submit some follicles to an independent anti-doping lab :)

the same anti-doping lab that covered Flo-Jo and Karl Lewis or other thing?

I suppose long hair are better than running ridiculously with a cap:

Stunned by his victory, Wottle forgot to remove his cap on the podium during the national anthem.

Charlie Chaplin wrote:

restrunner wrote:

Interesting, you hope he is a cheater and gets busted? I hope he is clean and will have a good career. But I'm sceptical.

We know he's almost certainly a cheater, we hope he'll get busted, because the sport is dead if it can't catch obvious dopers like him.

I hope he is clean, but I'm sceptical, as already said. You prefer him to be a doper because you couldn't handle the fact to come such a fantastic runner from African origin.

Charlie Chaplin wrote:

So you follow a guy on Twitter just because he propounds anti-semitic conspiracy theories that

He is a Zionist and proud of it .

Passant wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Katir's improvement from 3:36 to 3:28 is extreme.

14 3:48.37 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Stockholm 30 Jul 15

15 3:42.44 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Oslo 9 Jun 16

16 3:39.92 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Stockholm 18 Jun 17

17 3:31.18 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Monaco 20 Jul 18

What does this succession prove? Despite his young age (20), Ingebrigtsen has been involved in sports for over 13 years. In his own words, he has "probably sacrificed my childhood, adolescence and everything that exists. I have lived as a top athlete for over [13] years and I am only [20] years old so that says something."

Interestingly (to me, gumpy), Jakob deflected his father's predictions that Jakob would break the WR in the next couple of years.

Why?

- I do not think that is realistic.

- Why not?

- You can not just say something, and then you do it. It takes more than two years to build up to be able to run three seconds faster at 1500 meters.

gumpyrunner wrote:

What does this succession prove?

The list I got it from this link

It's just an exemple that runners can do a gap of 9 seconds (3.40 -> 3.31) at young age.

3.31 is almost an elite time for a young runner.

Katir too was running in the hills of Ksar el-Kebir and roads of Murcia at young ages (lol).

no contest wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Once you have written something - anything - it is capable of being disagreed with. Unless you are the "I am always right" narcissist you likely are.

I habe just written facts.

Sure you "habe". Even without the aid of English.

Passant wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Katir's improvement from 3:36 to 3:28 is extreme.

14 3:48.37 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Stockholm 30 Jul 15

15 3:42.44 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Oslo 9 Jun 16

16 3:39.92 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Stockholm 18 Jun 17

17 3:31.18 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Monaco 20 Jul 18

Ingebrigtsen's improvements have been as a teenager. That is to be expected. That doesn't prove he isn't a doper but it isn't the same as Katir making a massive career spike at age 22-23. His 8 sec jump has taken him from being a mediocre non-contender at championship level to second in the world in a year. He likely isn't finished yet. It easily matches if not surpasses the rise of Ramzi.

My progression

19 years old 4:15.22

20 years old 4:05.20

21 years old 3:58.15

Armstronglivs wrote:

no contest wrote:

I habe just written facts.

Sure you "habe". Even without the aid of English.

Are you proud now?

It's the behavior of a child, but I know you aren't a child.