Henry Rono training for masters mile record. PART II

What shoes are you currently training in?

O Henry (get it?) wrote:

What shoes are you currently training in?

Any shoe? Today was saugony last week was RonoRun,who knows next week.I just live on one shoe at the time as my training is going wild.

What do you have in mind? Do you have a shoe contract for me? Oh!yeah I got your point you mean the shoe is the cause of my quads and hamstring? I think it is unstability of financial issues.

I'm trying everything in the world for someone to hear me.I NEED MONEY TO LIVE UNDER-THE ROOF!!! How is the sound!!

YOU tell me! I feel good now though accept that pain in the quads.I'm going to cool it and heat it after massues in few minutes.

Good Luck.

Henry

Uhhh, gee Henry calm down. I was just asking what you're wearing now because I was curious.

I was not trying to draw you into conflict.

Geez, have a chocolate sundae and calm down

Good luck to you too.

Hi Henry,

Thanks for giving me a motivational lift on Doomsday hill today. Although I could tell you obviously weren't haven't a good race, it was fun to run with you for a bit.

Good luck with the mile next week. Even though I'll be only 30 miles away from it, I will have to miss it to coach my HS track team. But I'll be really curious to hear how you all did.

The pony-tailed woman with the orange shorts.

Henry:

I'm sorry to hear of your hamstring problems. I can empathize. I'm a male, 49, and of course nowhere near as fast as you. But I ran an "old guy" PR (for me) of 19:31 in mid-January, felt great, and decided--in the middle of base training--to run an all-out 10K the following weekend.

I must have started to overstride badly towards the end of the race, although all I was aware of was that something was slightly off. I didn't feel horrible, and I ran very hard.

The next day it felt as though someone had slammed the side of my left leg with a 2x4. My left hamstring was very bad, too.

I jogged 3 miles a day for the next two weeks at "granny pace," as you put it, but was still forced to quite running.

That was early February. I am just NOW, in early May, beginning to run again, and I'm still not entirely well.

There were no warning signs for this particular hamstring injury. It was sudden onset.

I tried everything to heal it. I took Aleve, which had always helpled clear up hamstring tenderness in the past. No use.

I sat on a big sheet of ice cubes after my runs. No use.

I quit running. I just walked for half an hour to an hour a day. No use.

I saw a chiropractor. No use.

I saw a second chiropractor trained in Active Release therapy, which many people here said was a good idea. No use--at least in the short term.

Finally, after all that, I started taking Motrin (ibuprofen), two tabs twice a day.

That is working. So I'm back to granny pace (10:30 pace) jogging, and an happy about that. But no racing for the next 3 months or so, and maybe longer.

Our hamstrings can definitely become a weak link as we age. I think we have to be VERY careful about not overstriding. I'm sure sleep and proper hydration at all times is important. Once I'm back in gear, I plan to do reverse hamstring curls--lying on my stomach and curling my heels towards my butt with light weights on a Nautilus machine. The reading I've done in the medical literature says there is a clear correlations between people who do these sort of strengthening exercises and NON-recurrence of hamstring injuries. But it's important to use light weights, at least at first.

Good luck! I don't think there's any one miracle cure for strained hamstrings. Take time off if you need it. And DO cross train. The biggest mistake I made was in not crosstraining. I'm completely out of shape now. So walk, cycle, whatever feels good. Hike in the mountains.

.-=+=-.

get a job. I'm sure you can get a job there in town that will pay your bills while still giving you the time to train.

Henry, your leg problems sound fairly serious, and you may want to back off slightly for a week or two. You really haven't had much time off during the last year. May do wonders for you. Certainly cross-train and stretch, etc. How are your shoes? Perhaps contact Saucony and try to get a couple more pair of shoes. I'm sure you know which model is best for you now. Someone's suggestion of part-time work is good, if you are having financial strains. A part-time job would still allow you to train pretty well and would take away at least some of the financial stress. You have made a lot of progress in the last year and inspired many. Always keep that in mind!! STEVE

To Steve

Financial problem Strains the muscles. Last night a friend of mine,she is a Lawyer took me to dinner after the Bloomsday race.We talked about it.She has been following Lestrun.com on my thread and she got some ideas.

"I will get you a job that way you don't have to kill yourself training so much,I know you because I used to see you climbing hill repeats,when you were in Pullman,you are too old, you have gone through so much. People loves like 1978......." she said.

Steve I'm trying to make money from my coaching

www.team-rono.com

;however,the athletes have not money,in fact I'm using my little money to take care of them in which it makes me more strains. It is very good to be around athletes;however,I have to make a living like any other agents do.But I can train them. The agents comes by and take them from me make the agents rich and I live poor.Guest what they say.

"Are you ready Henry Rono to run today 36 minutes? You can win master division."What kind of comment is that to an old man as I'm.No respect in sports of atheleticsm they are there to take money from athletes.Another comment "Henry Rono is too serious."Then you wonder how I got this far down to hell and homeless.

People still make fun of my running,they don't see me as any other human being who can get hurt.They have no sense of humanity.Not knowing that the differents between old and the young and that how they have been treating athletes and how I was treated when I was young.They around athletes prententing they are doing something great to them.

They will keep on treating me and many other athletes the same way they did in the past.

They have a method of treating some individual characters.Not everybody! Trust me!They know which one don't fight back.

Thanks Steve I'm heading to New Mexico this earlly morning and you can reach me home.Please edit my story.

Henry

Henry, no one here is 'making fun' of your running. Rest assured.

Yank wrote:

Henry, no one here is 'making fun' of your running. Rest assured.

I know people here love to see me coming here.I have that assured;however,I have these particular individuals.Where their mouths are rediculing others for fun of it.It hurts for someone like me who loves running and work so hard to lose weights for better life.

I enjoy the running sports.It is my craft.

My arguement is for those people don't even make any attempt to try to run for one foot step. Only to hit some one through their mouths it does hurt more than someone hit you on a basefall pad.I want them to use their feet do the talking as I do.I dont go around and making remarks when I get out of shape or do I envey others for their shape? Instead I try to do as they do in a passonable way right!And in a civilize manner.One shouldn't go around throughing remarks around that it hurts athlete like me and claiming to be a leader of athletes.Please edit

Henry

Yank wrote:

Henry, no one here is 'making fun' of your running. Rest assured.

I second that! No one (that matters at least) is making fun of Henry Rono. On the contrary, your return to running has been inspiring to follow. Probably a few followers are impatient and want a steady- line of progress and improvement, but it doesn't work that way, especially at our ages. You have had a tremendous improvement in your health and fitness, as most 50-plus year olds I know could only dream of an 18-19 minute 5k. Even experienced masters over age 50 respect sub-20 min. You have had a leveling off in improvement, and to get to the next level (assuming you want to!), will require some rest and rehab for your legs, good shoes, and more quality running (tempo, interval). But you must get your health back first, and I think your spirits will get better, also, with some rest. Certainly you have a great base for starting the next phase of quality training. Your diet is the unknown factor, and somehow you must reduce calorie intake to lose the remaining 15-20 (?) lbs. Or you could stay at the same weight and be a very respectable masters runner. A part-time job wouldn't be a bad idea. Obviously, that's up to you, Henry. No matter what you do from here, though, you have our respect for what you accomplished this last year, not to mention what you accomplished 30 years ago!!! STEVE

Henry should have a job as a coach at a University of Community College. He graduated from Washington State, and has a B.A. (to my knowledge). I don't think he has an M.A. which would prevent him from coaching at a major Univesity, but surely someone or some Institution can provide Henry with a job, based on his former experience and knowledge of what it took to become the best runner in the world (in 1978). Those times of 13:08 and 27:22 have to mean something.

I get the impression, sometimes, that some people are taking advantage of Henry, and he is not getting what he deserves.

Ghost

coach:

christophe_moulton@yahoo.ca

(currently lecturing

in South Korea)

Henry,

Although I just view your comeback and training details via this message board on occasion, I would like you to know that you have provided a great inspiration to me. As someone who has always ran for physical, mental and emotional betterment, I identify with your struggles and triumphs. Thanks for keeping everyone posted and continually wearing your heart right on your sleeve. It would be my advice to simply ignore the handful of moronic naysayers. Know that there are legions of supporters out there who undoubtly only direct admiration and praise towards your direction. I do hope your financial situation improves, and you continue to make progress forward on your path. From my limited perspective, you have already reclaimed a greatness that can only get greater.

Thanks,

Mr. C.

too many ass-kissers is what is holding Henry back. He needs those of us out here on letsrun, to not only encourage him and tell him how great he is but also to give him 'straight and honest talk' too, when necessary.

Henry Rono wrote:People still make fun of my running,they don't see me as any other human being who can get hurt. Henry

Don't let the naysayers get you down, Henry. The majority of people following your quest are rooting for you to succeed. Actually, you already have, even if you don't get your age group record. I know you've inspired me to start training again after watching you run at Hillsdale (after 17 years since my last serious race). Though I will never be a world record holder, I will still strive to perform to the best of my ability. That is, after all, all we can do!

While I know little about sports physiology, I do think that we have to listen to our bodies, and rest when needed. Nobody knows your body like you do, though, so you have to do what is right for you. Good luck and Good Health!

I really do respect Henry as an open and masters athlete. I finished a distant third behind Mr. Rono in the Carlsbad 5k M55. That said, I do believe that many of the well intentioned posters are contributing to a dream that may have little basis to reality. If people really want to help Henry they would encourage him to pursue a career in work first. At age 55 running should be a hobby that he pursues in his spare time. What is Henry going to do when he is 70? That is only fifteen years away. Discussion of shoe contracts, negotiations for appearance fees, selling t-shirts, and coaching for income all seem surreal to me.

I agree with Ghost of Igloi. Like others here I have been excited by Henry's quest. He has been an inspiration to me in my running. I learned a lot about running from him. Henry had a sponsor paying some of his bills (especially rent) for about six months but that sponsor no longer has the money to help him. Henry has to prepare for his whole future. I posted a couple of months ago that Henry needed to find a steady source of income. What Henry needs from us is any help we can give him to pay his current bills while he resolves his monetary future. Henry's monetary future has to be his number one priority.

Henry, I wish you every success in your quest to meet your financial needs and then in your quest for running records.

Interesting audio interview.

http://www.athleticscoaching.ca/?pid=2&nid=69