Official LRC President Joseph R Biden Thread

agip wrote:

remember when Adult used to foolishly claim that Russia's invasion of UKR was the US's fault and had as a root cause NATO expansion? Remember when he trusted Putin more than our own intelligence agencies? Just like Spanky did?

Not even putin believes that one anymore, after Sweden and Finland ask to join NATO without even a sigh from Vlad.

Now Putin is agreeing this is just on old fashioned war to increase territory and take back lost lands. Which has been clear from the start to all but US right wingers.

But Adult still believes his nonsense.

The Kyiv Independent
@KyivIndependent
⚡️Putin says Russia’s aim is to acquire new territories.
Speaking at an exhibition devoted to Peter the Great, Russian dictator Vladimir Putin claimed that the emperor’s Great Northern War against Sweden had been a return of Russian land, not a conquest of territory.

“Apparently it is our fate too to return (territory) and strengthen ourselves,” he said in an apparent reference to Russia’s aggression against Ukraine. The Kremlin’s proxies said earlier that Ukraine's Russian-occupied areas may be annexed by Russia.

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

agip wrote:

remember when Adult used to foolishly claim that Russia's invasion of UKR was the US's fault and had as a root cause NATO expansion? Remember when he trusted Putin more than our own intelligence agencies? Just like Spanky did?

Not even putin believes that one anymore, after Sweden and Finland ask to join NATO without even a sigh from Vlad.

Now Putin is agreeing this is just on old fashioned war to increase territory and take back lost lands. Which has been clear from the start to all but US right wingers.

But Adult still believes his nonsense.

The Kyiv Independent
@KyivIndependent
⚡️Putin says Russia’s aim is to acquire new territories.
Speaking at an exhibition devoted to Peter the Great, Russian dictator Vladimir Putin claimed that the emperor’s Great Northern War against Sweden had been a return of Russian land, not a conquest of territory.

“Apparently it is our fate too to return (territory) and strengthen ourselves,” he said in an apparent reference to Russia’s aggression against Ukraine. The Kremlin’s proxies said earlier that Ukraine's Russian-occupied areas may be annexed by Russia.

That's what Putin said it was about. He said the same thing in 2022 that he said about in 2004.

Your position is that he started crafting the lie in 2004 to fool everyone in 2022?

Our intelligence agencies said Russia would have the war won in 5 days. I trusted them and they were laughably wrong.

What exactly do you think Putin can do about Sweden and Finland? He's bogged down in Ukraine finding out his military forgot how to fight. He can't do anything.

You don't even understand what you're talking about. Russia doesn't want NATO in Ukraine. When Ukraine was a Russian puppet state they were perfectly happy. When Ukraine's government was violently overthrown by Obama's State Department in 2014 and Ukraine send the Azov Nazis into the Donbass Russia was less happy. When Zelensky got elected and started jailing his pro-Russia political opponents and started declaring that Ukraine should be in NATO things got worse.

Russia strengthening itself means keeping Ukraine out of NATO or occupying Ukraine if they can't keep them out of NATO. Russia's goal never changed.

None of this means the invasion was justified. But to pretend Russia just invaded out of the blue because they're "EVIL" is lazy and dumb.

agip wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

That's what Putin said it was about. He said the same thing in 2022 that he said about in 2004.

Your position is that he started crafting the lie in 2004 to fool everyone in 2022?

Our intelligence agencies said Russia would have the war won in 5 days. I trusted them and they were laughably wrong.

What exactly do you think Putin can do about Sweden and Finland? He's bogged down in Ukraine finding out his military forgot how to fight. He can't do anything.

You don't even understand what you're talking about. Russia doesn't want NATO in Ukraine. When Ukraine was a Russian puppet state they were perfectly happy. When Ukraine's government was violently overthrown by Obama's State Department in 2014 and Ukraine send the Azov Nazis into the Donbass Russia was less happy. When Zelensky got elected and started jailing his pro-Russia political opponents and started declaring that Ukraine should be in NATO things got worse.

Russia strengthening itself means keeping Ukraine out of NATO or occupying Ukraine if they can't keep them out of NATO. Russia's goal never changed.

None of this means the invasion was justified. But to pretend Russia just invaded out of the blue because they're "EVIL" is lazy and dumb.

the invasion wasn't because ru is evil, it's because Putin is trying to rebuild the USSR and do to so he needs non-democratically elected puppets in the former soviet states. And no sense of leaning toward the West or heaven forbid democracy.

Ukraine was not a puppet, was a democracy, was leaning west. it had to go.

agip wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

I'd love to know why a Russian was dumb enough to launch an invasion in the steppes in the middle of mud season.

Mud season is the only reason Russia still exists and somehow it managed to catch the Russians completely by surprise.

yeah the flipping around has been amusing...RU has made many of the same mistakes and assumptions the Germans made in the 40s. And winter is only 4-5 months away. I'd hate to be a RU soldier sleeping rough in a trench in UKR in the winter. But that's coming.

I read that the UKR armed forces in some instances actually raided their own WW2 museums and are re-using some of equipment they used against Germany in WW2.

The other echo is different...when RU intentionally starved millions of Ukrainians to death in the 30s. And here we are again, with RU using food as a weapon in UKR.

agip wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

I'd love to know why a Russian was dumb enough to launch an invasion in the steppes in the middle of mud season.

Mud season is the only reason Russia still exists and somehow it managed to catch the Russians completely by surprise.

yeah the flipping around has been amusing...RU has made many of the same mistakes and assumptions the Germans made in the 40s. And winter is only 4-5 months away. I'd hate to be a RU soldier sleeping rough in a trench in UKR in the winter. But that's coming.

I read that the UKR armed forces in some instances actually raided their own WW2 museums and are re-using some of equipment they used against Germany in WW2.

The other echo is different...when RU intentionally starved millions of Ukrainians to death in the 30s. And here we are again, with RU using food as a weapon in UKR.

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

nonequals wrote:

Oh, now you have to mock Cheney's physical appearance, in addition to Clinton's. The other Trumpers on this thread stop at moran. You continue on to sexist, racist, and probably a few other -ists.

Never, of course, have you explained why Cheney isn't a conservative?

Of course, it's JUST because Donny told you not to like her. Even though she voted with him practically 100% of the time and didn't regularly and strongly turn against him until very late in his term.

So, being the pathetic obedient Trumper that you are, you don't like her.

Impressive.

^ The moron says without even a hint of shame when idiots like him called Trump orange for years...

I don't like Liz Cheney because she's a liar and fraud who let her TDS get the best of her.

Link:dailycaller.com/2021/05/13/bret-baier-...

She lies through her teeth on a regular basis and her participation in this farce 1/6 commission is a disgrace which is why her career is over.

nonequals wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

^ The moron says without even a hint of shame when idiots like him called Trump orange for years...

I don't like Liz Cheney because she's a liar and fraud who let her TDS get the best of her.

Link:dailycaller.com/2021/05/13/bret-baier-...

She lies through her teeth on a regular basis and her participation in this farce 1/6 commission is a disgrace which is why her career is over.

This exchange was complete when I stated, "It's JUST because Donny told you not to like her."

You know, if you want to be a good little cultist, you've GOT to give the cult leader CREDIT for everything that you believe. You can't pretend like you MIGHT have your own reasons (which of course, you don't). When you suggest that you're doing anything for any other reason ("Liar!" "Fraud!" "Possibly unshapely ankles!"), you might get in trouble with the big guy.

And yeah, he's orange. Because he CHOOSES to be orange because he's a vastly insecure and vain human being. Infinitely different than the skeleton our parents gave us.