I'm Done. The Mezra death brought home how cycincal and damaging this website it to real people

Too many threads about Meza cheating, it is hard to keep up. I should go read something more positive. Oh look, Bernard Lagat set new master record. I should go read that instead.

Only a demented person like yourself would take me asking you all to stop ruining Frank's life as trolling.

I said you didn't know these men. You didn't know why they were running or why they may have been off course. You didn't know why (and still don't) Frank re-ran portions of the race with other people. You didn't know anything. I pleaded with you all to stop. Go back and read my replies.

Your vindictiveness and self-congratulating circlejerk prevented you from seeing how toxic the forum had became.

Bang up job.

Took me a while v4 wrote:

midnitelamp wrote:

Good Morning America is far more responsible for what happened than LetsRun. Millions saw that show, mere thousands here. And they mocked him on GMA.

Would have never occurred but for LRC carrying on and "making it go viral" by contacting national media. LRC got what it wanted.

It was an age group world record, where else would it be discussed but on a major running site? He was approached by several unbiased people asking for an explanation of his world record performance. He unequivocally stated that even with leaving the course, he ran a world record. You and others fanned this whole thing by not even giving the presented evidence a fair review. It was just denials and threats from the anti-investigation group. What was needed was an impartial view by non-runners and those who could care less. That would be the viral audience. Please deny that if you were questioned on a race performance that you couldn’t show that you actually ran the whole race as the time shows. This was an age group world record performance. It was going to be looked at, and didn’t Frank and his friends put out videos on his age group world record to make it go viral.

Took me a while v4 wrote:

midnitelamp wrote:

Good Morning America is far more responsible for what happened than LetsRun. Millions saw that show, mere thousands here. And they mocked him on GMA.

Would have never occurred but for LRC carrying on and "making it go viral" by contacting national media. LRC got what it wanted.

If anyone wants to apportion blame in that regard, then you have to shoulder as much as anyone. It's very easy to go back and view all your posts in that thread continually saying that there was not enough evidence Frank cheated, that he probably had legitimate reasons for leaving the course, that it was quite reasonable an elderly runner would have bladder problems, leave to urinate and still set a world record etc etc.

You trolled and goaded, constantly demanding better evidence and pretty much seemed intent on whipping up the intensity of the inquiries into Frank's cheating. And to be honest, I doubt very much whether you are being remotely sincere here either.

Unlike most of those who have taken sides in this matter you come across as someone who has no genuine concern either way, but instead just enjoys the reactions that you manage to stir up in the people who actually do care.

Took Me Awhile is listed under “guilty conscience.”

Sancreed wrote:

You trolled and goaded, constantly demanding better evidence and pretty much seemed intent on whipping up the intensity of the inquiries into Frank's cheating. And to be honest, I doubt very much whether you are being remotely sincere here either.

Yes because I was telling you all that having NO photographs of someone cheating is not the same thing as proving they have cheated. How dumb do you have to be to not understand that?

Many times in the thread I asked you all to stop your shenanigans. You all were intent on contacting his work and patients and national media. I asked you to stop because it was ridiculous to investigate a race where he did NOT set an AG record AND he paid money to get in. I said you all weren't RDs so there was no reason for that public witch-hunt. Unfortunately, you all decided to call me Frank and Scott and Diaz and continue your lynchmob.

Some of you said you would do it until LAM disqualified him. It did not even stop then. You kept digging and digging for mort dirt to DEFINITELY ruin his life. You succeeded. And yes. I sincerely believe you are all racists.

jesseriley wrote:

Took Me Awhile is listed under “guilty conscience.”

The only guilt I carry is not blasting the moderators here more for keeping the thread up. Someone needed to get through to brojos then maybe that would have stopped your lynching.

There were numerous posts showing his times for various marathons over a long period. Are you saying all these races, many close to records, are all valid and not to be looked at ever?

Great solution to lying, tell more lies! Guilty conscience...

Honest question wrote:

There were numerous posts showing his times for various marathons over a long period. Are you saying all these races, many close to records, are all valid and not to be looked at ever?

I don't give a crap if you look them over. Look them over and email the RDs. Public shaming is nonsense. Repeatedly contacting national media for a minor league race is nonsense. There were also "seemingly legitimate" races like PP. There were "seemingly legitimate" people like LHS coaches vouching for him.

To be honest the Frank on the bike picture sealed it for me. Until then, I was very much sincerely on the other side.

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I see what you did there wrote:

Hi Took Me A While!

Not me. Ask rojo. But I'm glad that others are finally starting to see this farce for what it is.

To be honest, when I started trolling tonight I was in the anti-Frank camp. I'm also a huge MI fan. I read it religiously. When I finished tonight, I am of the mind that it is more likely than not that LRC and MI investigators are just wrong about everything.The easiest explanation is that he's a fast runner and does unexpected things because he runs for fun and never anticipated this thread.

He would not need to be on video running 6:30/mile if he were cheating. That is faster than the pace he actually finished. He would not be captured running marathons twice with friends if he wasn't running for fun. He could not cheat at PP. He has GREAT character witnesses. A lot of finisherpix "evidence" is wrong or can be ignored.

Goodnight and I hope Frank receives an apology from everyone.

You are a liar and a troll. You state here that, "The easiest explanation is that he's a fast runner who does unexpected things because he runs for fun.." This, after well over 200 pages of posts with details of the missed continuous video camera at Sprouts Phoenix, and the three off course shots at LA 2019. If you genuinely believed your own post then you are clearly too stupid for anyone to ever debate anything with again.

And as I said, your troll posts continued on the theme that no matter how much evidence there was against Frank it was never enough for you. Your initial posts actually prompted Deadsq to enter the fray and provide even more evidence. If anyone is guilty of inciting a mob on LRC, then it is definitely you.

You even went to ludicrous lengths stating that Frank was your reason for living etc. Clearly a Troll...

jesseriley wrote:

... is listed under “guilty conscience.”

Yes, that is why Murphy is in hiding. He knows he is guilty.

There was a super easy explanation to the Sprouts video... He could have been lost. He's 70. There was at least two streets right before where that camera was positioned where he could have "cut the course". Does that disqualify him? Sure, maybe. What if he was overheated? What if he had a medical emergency and decided to take a short cut and then after he sat down and rested he felt better and continued? That's the point I was making. Nobody KNEW why he wasn't on the video and nobody cared.

It wasn't anyone's place to care about it. It certainly wasn't anyone's place to make memes about it, or videos about it, or contact the LA Times.

Took me a while v4 wrote:

To be honest the Frank on the bike picture sealed it for me.

A fuzzy/grainy photo -- intentionally fuzzy to support MI narrative? That "photo" would never be used as conclusive proof it was Frank Meza -- a judge would not allow it. What happened to you is: You saw what you wanted to see.

Took me a while v4 wrote:

There was a super easy explanation to the Sprouts video... He could have been lost. He's 70. There was at least two streets right before where that camera was positioned where he could have "cut the course". Does that disqualify him? Sure, maybe. What if he was overheated? What if he had a medical emergency and decided to take a short cut and then after he sat down and rested he felt better and continued? That's the point I was making. Nobody KNEW why he wasn't on the video and nobody cared.

It wasn't anyone's place to care about it. It certainly wasn't anyone's place to make memes about it, or videos about it, or contact the LA Times.

And with this latest post of yours, I rest my case...

hidden derek wrote:

jesseriley wrote:

... is listed under “guilty conscience.”

Yes, that is why Murphy is in hiding. He knows he is guilty.

I think we need to leave Derek Murphy out of the discussion. Derek was merely an amateur, self-proclaimed journalist and investigator with insomnia who decided dig into and report the transgressions of amateur runners.

Repeatedly accusing Derek Murphy of any causation to the tragic death of Frank Meza is akin to cyberbullying. I can imagine Derek trying to explain this to his **** and ******** after they have seen the report on the Cincinnati news. Derek must be devastated to have to go through this trauma, and truthfully, I don't think it is fair and just to fan the flames of public discontent.

Derek Murphy sulks at home devastated wrote:

hidden derek wrote:

Yes, that is why Murphy is in hiding. He knows he is guilty.

I think we need to leave Derek Murphy out of the discussion. Derek was merely an amateur, self-proclaimed journalist and investigator with insomnia who decided dig into and report the transgressions of amateur runners.

Derek has sold himself off as a running forensics expert.

Derek Murphy is a one-man forensic-caliber hunter of marathon cheaters . . .

It was not an age group world record. Stop ignoring the facts to suit your twisted narratives. The course wasn't certifiable for world records therefore a "world record" was never possible. A review was not needed. Frank was not required to prove anything to anyone.

Derek Murphy sulks at home devastated wrote:

I think we need to leave Derek Murphy out of the discussion.

Repeatedly accusing Derek Murphy of any causation to the tragic death of Frank Meza is akin to cyberbullying.

Nice try, Derek. Your goose is cooked.