Henry Rono training for masters mile record. PART II

To perspective

"Our conversation on the deeper forces at work in running falters again. He comes with diamonds to give, but we talk of beans and paste."

Yes!"What motivates Henry to run now? I think that it's in his blood - that life and movement are forever entwined for Henry."

I think in most people food is the motivation that is in the blood right!The high demand of food in-take.

How can we make ourselves free from the weights that shackle my running abilities?

The questions how can we come out of shackles?To untie the shackles what is it takes? To me weights is my preventor.

How can I turn it around? Being over-weight makes me a prisoner so to speak.

Any great scientist out there to unfold the answer for us?

Henry

perspective wrote:

Our conversation on the deeper forces at work in running falters again. He comes with diamonds to give, but we talk of beans and paste.

What motivates Henry to run now? I think that it's in his blood - that life and movement are forever entwined for Henry.

I think you are right. As runners we all feel that (to varying extents maybe?). The need to move and the freedom we feel when we run easily or fast captures us on the physical, mental, emotional AND spiritual levels, don't you think? I am not sure about the "social" aspect.

But BIG thing I noticed about Henry's motivation is maybe the thing that has captured all our attention... he didn't introduce himself saying 'I've started running again.. to lose weight, or to get fit, or to be able to hang out with runners again, or even to feel good about myself' No, he announced from day 1 that he intends to break a world record.

That's a goal big enough and worthy enough to get you out of bed in the morning and to keep you battling on in training.

i'd like to say good luck the masters records are super sharp i'm sure you must of heard of a guy norman shaheed.Personally i wonder why there is so little talk about that dude over here. He i 50 + weighs 126 lbs for 5'8" - 5'9". Eats once a day. And trains once a day. He does incredible stuff as i heard of ihis interviews. Like 4 x 1 mile in 4:40. Etc.

His approach is intresting. He starts after a 2 month break with a couple of miles running 6 days a week and builds it up week after week. Like thi week 6 x 4 miles. Then 6 x 5 miles,... all the way to 12 miles a day then some races and then he adds speed work once or twice a week. I reead 3 articles about this guy. He started running in his 30's and ran 8 low. I sw an article in 2005 of whee he ran 9:30's in the 55+ cat.Also a sub 4:30 mile to his mark.Just so everyone knows what rono will be up against.

actually i also wrote this because i love the simplicity of this guys training yet effectivitiness.I'm thinking that the miles he runs will be high quality like 6 minute miles.A good way for me to start as well(although i am a teen/a. twenteen:-) )

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King Henry:

This is an incredible journey you are allowing us all to take with you. I wish you every success.

I am using the thread as motivation to try and conquer my goal of running a sub 40 min 10K before I turn 50 years of age in 2008. today at age 47 I am running at best 9-9;30 pace and suffer from right knee pain and soreness which has been present almost 2 years. I am using ProFlex supplements, using leg weights for a home strengthening program and right now the knee is quite stiff in the first 5 mins of warmup but loosens up and then is not painful.

I also lost weight, down from 160 to 147 since Jan 06 and it has been helpful.

as one said earlier, "too much about me" and lets here more about Mr Rono!!

To GoHooos

"I also lost weight, down from 160 to 147 since Jan 06 and it has been helpful."

You are doing great as far as I'm concern.

I have a knee issue too,but as the weight comes down the better pace I run and the pressure off the knee.

I think at this age it is good to listen to our bodies in a sensesful manner.Our minds can destroy our bodies if we are not careful.

Also our bodies can destroy our minds too.We have to balance them in order to function the way we want them to work.

All of a sudden we have this problem of the knee problem and how it gets out of control.The problem of the knee is common in our age and athletes.It does go away if you treat as an athlete.

You have time to do it by the time of the age of 50 you have it.

Henry

Henry:

Are you a member of the same tribe in Kenya as Kip Keino and Mike Boit; the Kalenjin tribe? Does this particular tribe have a higher number of national and world class runners than other areas of Kenya? Is it because it is in the Rift Valley, at altitude? What about the Nandi tribe? I thought they had the most 'great runners'?

Henrys ancestors defeated the Masai.

Henry is true warrior spirit

To historian

"Are you a member of the same tribe in Kenya as Kip Keino and Mike Boit; the Kalenjin tribe? Does this particular tribe have a higher number of national and world class runners than other areas of Kenya? Is it because it is in the Rift Valley, at altitude? What about the Nandi tribe? I thought they had the most 'great runners'?"

I'm a Nandi tribe,the above mention comes from one district Kapsabet,Kilibwoni location,the above names are my neighbors.No doudt they are my tribal people.

To update my training.The 50 day of training phase II,the first day of week eight.I log-in 181 minutes come to weight 195lbs,I'm still feeling burning fires towards the the last 30 minutes it starts getting on my right knee.At the begining I was feeling very strong in the end I was feeling wasted,I dragged myself to the showers after come and sit-down drink all the water I could find and half-gallon of milk that fill me up. I felt a sleep and may be or lighter head,perhaps so tired and spacing out.

Henry

historian wrote:

Henry:

Are you a member of the same tribe in Kenya as Kip Keino and Mike Boit; the Kalenjin tribe? Does this particular tribe have a higher number of national and world class runners than other areas of Kenya? Is it because it is in the Rift Valley, at altitude? What about the Nandi tribe? I thought they had the most 'great runners'?

Henry is Nandi, which is part of the Kalenjin tribe.

thanks....very interesting.....hey, GM, did u ever consider moving to Kenya and training for 3-6 months, like Salazar and a few others tried; or was Eugene primitive enough for you?....lol....

I think Salazar bailed out early, from that 'experiment' if I recall, due to sickness or injury. I think Bob Kennedy might have done it too.

To 8:42 guy....

"thanks....very interesting.....hey, GM, did u ever consider moving to Kenya and training for 3-6 months, like Salazar and a few others tried; or was Eugene primitive enough for you?....lol...."

Salazar went there trying to get in shape for 1980 Moscow Olympics, he couldn't stand the environment,he came-back to Eugene,Oregon complaining and saying that Kenya don't have this and that, so he stay there for only 19 days.He couldn't handle it.He lost the focus.

I wondered what was he looking for in the first place,is it not running?

What was that short period would do to you?.He needed to stay for three-six months as you say. Like the Finish four Gold medalist runner Lesse Veran in 1972-76.

Henry

very interesting, Henry. Do you remember seeing Lasse Viren and Juhu Vaatahan and other Finns, in the early 70's before you came over to the USA? Were you running then and did you ever run with them? (or was that a little too soon for you, 1970-72 years)Did they run up 'Agony Hill'?

To old school dog

"very interesting, Henry. Do you remember seeing Lasse Viren and Juhu Vaatahan and other Finns, in the early 70's before you came over to the USA? Were you running then and did you ever run with them? (or was that a little too soon for you, 1970-72 years)Did they run up 'Agony Hill'?"

I met lasse Viren for the first time in 1976 training in Nyahururu,the town of Gold medalist and five times world cross country,John Ngugi.There's a longest hill to climbe there,called Agony Hill,but they were not trying to climbe it.

Every morning,when I'm climbing the agony hill,he always running very slowly along high-way to Nyanyuki.He says, he does something like 15-20km a day.A very quiet guy,he keeps it to himself infact the late,the Finnish,journalist Pekka Rinne was translating the conversation,when we visited him and took some-photos pictures together.This is before Montreal,Canada Olympics 1976.

Pekka was telling him,I'm up-coming champoin next-to him.

Henry

Henry,

Did you ever run with Ngugi? Maybe you influenced him for running the hills?

I was thinking Albuquerque is too hot. Yesterday here the high was 87 and dew point 63. Today the high in Albuquerque will be 92 and dew point 44. Looks like other than slower times from the altitude, Albuquerque has better climate for running than here.

Henry,

What is your opinion about the difference of altitude with training, and also with running times?

To JR,

Albuquerque brings all-the athletes around the world you name it.This is a Gold-medals maker environment-Marathon winners comes from here-world-record-holders revivers comes here-to revive the their engines-But they have to race somewhere-else.It is a place to tune-up the lungs.

I never ran or train with Ngugi,I saw him in 1985 when I was there in Nyahururu running through on the road like a rocket.Unlike Lasse Viren,whose pace was as a grandma.

The hot and dry air is not a problem athletes get used to.

You can train for sometimes then go to low altitude to do speed work as Ibrahim Hussein used to do in Flaggstaff.

Sometimes in future I will go to low altitude to do speed work,but not yet.I have to bring my weight-to 160lbs.

Henry

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Henry,

Is it better to run a longer medium hill, or a shorter steep hill more times?