It isn't that increasing mileage is the only way to improve. It is that the elite Americans came from low mileage at young ages. There is something about running too much at a young age that somehow caps maximum potential. Maybe it is something with heart or lung development.
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high guy wrote:
It isn't that increasing mileage is the only way to improve. It is that the elite Americans came from low mileage at young ages. There is something about running too much at a young age that somehow caps maximum potential. Maybe it is something with heart or lung development.
That sounds highly bogus to me. This is almost never the case when it comes to boys who become elite american men.
It's my belief that most american girls who become elite women, do so not because of, but in spite of their low volume as high schoolers/collegiates. This is why Tuohy has surpassed all their marks throughout HS and college.
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high guy wrote:
Yes she was high mileage. Coburn and Frerichs were doing 15 MPW. High is relative. Tuohy was doing more than 99% of her peers.
15 mpw is on the low side... and sorry but this idea that Tuohy was running 'super high mileage' as a sophmore etc and that is a reason she will not improve is boring at this point and also untrue. She also was injured during jr, sr year hs and freshman year of college.
Coburn also was running 80 mpw by her junior year of college, at altitude, so?? Seems she has had a nice long career since...
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themildrunmaster wrote:
high guy wrote:
It isn't that increasing mileage is the only way to improve. It is that the elite Americans came from low mileage at young ages. There is something about running too much at a young age that somehow caps maximum potential. Maybe it is something with heart or lung development.
That sounds highly bogus to me. This is almost never the case when it comes to boys who become elite american men.
It's my belief that most american girls who become elite women, do so not because of, but in spite of their low volume as high schoolers/collegiates. This is why Tuohy has surpassed all their marks throughout HS and college.
Thats because it is highly bogus. I genuinely wonder if these people think Kipyegon and Hassan were running low mileage under the age of 18.
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I’m not here to debate whether high mileage at a young age is good thing or bad thing for females; there probably is no correct answer.
It is an interesting academic point in their development, and total training volume (not just running) should be distinguished, particularly in light of the fact that the new XC high champion is just a sophomore, following Parker Valby type training, whereas Valby said she didn’t even know cross-training was a thing, in high school.
Conversely, did not Tuohy include cross-training in her high school program?
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keep it real dont bash the athletes wrote:
I’m not here to debate whether high mileage at a young age is good thing or bad thing for females; there probably is no correct answer.
It is an interesting academic point in their development, and total training volume (not just running) should be distinguished, particularly in light of the fact that the new XC high champion is just a sophomore, following Parker Valby type training, whereas Valby said she didn’t even know cross-training was a thing, in high school.
Conversely, did not Tuohy include cross-training in her high school program?
Here is an example of training for highschoolers (male and female) 14-18 in Kenya... It's not low mileage. Include doubling, workouts, long runs, vo2max sessions and lots of racing...
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Yes. Coburn was doing 15 MPW at puberty when Tuohy was doing 55 though. You are making the case that elite American women ramped up greatly throough college. They were not at their high school levels and their times droped by minutes rather than seconds like Tuohy. Lisa Kohl is another Iowa girl like Schweizer who came out of nowhere and still holds the NCAA 10k record. She never won a state title and was running nearly nothing in high school.
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Oh please. This is the same debunked drivel year after year. Tuohy upends these dumb assumptions (as have other elite US runner who were not "low mileage"), and the split second proponents of this view think they have found an in, the bring this nonsense back for another round. And I love the self-certainty of this ignorant nonsense.
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Uncle Fred wrote:
Yes. Coburn was doing 15 MPW at puberty when Tuohy was doing 55 though. You are making the case that elite American women ramped up greatly throough college. They were not at their high school levels and their times droped by minutes rather than seconds like Tuohy. Lisa Kohl is another Iowa girl like Schweizer who came out of nowhere and still holds the NCAA 10k record. She never won a state title and was running nearly nothing in high school.
It would be super impressive if Tuohy dropped her 15:37 from High School by minutes in college.
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bumblebee wrote:
It would be super impressive if Tuohy dropped her 15:37 from High School by minutes in college.
You’re right, genius, it would because it would probably mean that “she” is a “he.”
durrrrrrrrrrrr
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why are some people such dolts? wrote:
bumblebee wrote:
It would be super impressive if Tuohy dropped her 15:37 from High School by minutes in college.
You’re right, genius, it would because it would probably mean that “she” is a “he.”
durrrrrrrrrrrr
Sorry, just noticed the dolt that you’re replying to is uncle Freddy. He’s still fightin’ the good fight. I guess some people don’t have a life.
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Forbes on Tuohy signing with Adidas
In Tuohy, adidas sees someone with vast potential on the track and a devoted fan base. Even though Tuohy has posted only 52 times on Instagram, she has 110,000 followers on the platform. That is more than any elite U.S. woman mid-distance or distance runner except for Molly Seidel (237,000 followers), Athing Mu (180,000 followers), Emily Sisson (133,000 followers) and Molly Huddle (112,000 followers).“Katelyn has done an amazing job of just being really authentically herself,” said Jennifer Thomas, adidas’s vice president of global sports marketing for running. “She gets the most engagement from people following her whether it’s training or racing, but she doesn’t post anything she doesn’t believe in. She’s accrued this incredible following because she’s just really authentic.”
Thomas said she has been following Tuohy’s career since high school when she became the first (and still only) runner to win three consecutive individual national cross country titles at the Nike Cross Nationals in Portland, Ore.[Ray] Flynn said all of the major shoe companies were interested in signing Tuohy to a professional contract. He declined to discuss financial details of the deal, but he said it was for multiple years and that “it’s one of the highest (deals) in the time I’ve been working” as an agent, which dates to 1989. Tuohy also has a marketing deal with Olipop soda. Flynn said he’s working on other sponsorships, too.
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She is the female Drew Hunter.
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Hunt It wrote:
She is the female Drew Hunter.
I guess I missed Drew going to college and winning titles and setting records.
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He would have. His times were faster than anyone in the NCAA. He was smarter than that because he signed a pro contract worth millions that he wouldn't have gotten had he gone to college. Men have it much tougher than women becuase they need to be on the edge of world class coming out of college in order to get a large contract while women can be almost a minute behind due to the lack of depth. I doubt that she ever gets as close to the best in the world as Drew has.
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Pedaling soda pop that costs $2.35 a can is representative of her ‘authenticity’?
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uhhh soda pop wrote:
Pedaling soda pop that costs $2.35 a can is representative of her ‘authenticity’?
Actually pedalling the soft drink she apparently likes (and apparently liked before the NIL deal, despite its cost) is representative of her authenticity.
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bluffy wrote:
He would have. His times were faster than anyone in the NCAA. He was smarter than that because he signed a pro contract worth millions that he wouldn't have gotten had he gone to college. Men have it much tougher than women becuase they need to be on the edge of world class coming out of college in order to get a large contract while women can be almost a minute behind due to the lack of depth. I doubt that she ever gets as close to the best in the world as Drew has.
I think that is a stretch
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3:36 2017
3:35 2018
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smarter than Tuohy's Dad wrote:
3:36 2017
3:35 2018
Chezerek ran 3:52 and Kerr ran 3:35 in 2017, Kerr ran 3:54 and 3:35 in 2018...shall I go on?
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