But what kind of mileage, in both cases? Is practically all of the ground-running now closer to threshold or above, while in HS was she including warm-up and cool-down miles? We don’t know. Cook’s answer was also somewhat shocking too, but then she said she doesn’t even do warm-up miles with Roe.
(Kudos to Gault for getting the footage.)
well she did not say the training was more intense she said she has upped her mileage.
I thought she said in the press-conference that overall training (but did not get into specifics) was more intense now than in HS.
well she did not say the training was more intense she said she has upped her mileage.
I thought she said in the press-conference that overall training (but did not get into specifics) was more intense now than in HS.
um...no this is what she said "I didn't run a whole lot in high school..... I was running 20-30 miles per week so just upping my mileage has helped tremendously with fitness and adding cross training into that has helped a lot"
I thought she said in the press-conference that overall training (but did not get into specifics) was more intense now than in HS.
um...no this is what she said "I didn't run a whole lot in high school..... I was running 20-30 miles per week so just upping my mileage has helped tremendously with fitness and adding cross training into that has helped a lot"
And there is even an old tiktok video out there where she’s jogging with her friend on a bike, and IIRC, they’re saying she’s running 100miles (or maybe it was 100 mile weeks). Point being, she was aware of the concept of high-mileage training back then, but evidently, based on these later interviews, was not executing it.
I thought she said in the press-conference that overall training (but did not get into specifics) was more intense now than in HS.
Right, and that she didn't take running seriously in high school.
Well, I think it’s all relative. She may have thought she was being very serious with running back then. But compared to now, she realizes the amount of work required is on a whole different level.
“I had the privilege of watching you run in highschool and I have noticed just your fitness has been remarkable. Can you talk a little bit about your training? I noticed that you have put on some muscle and um there’s so much to know about your training… and could you get into the specifics of your training and how you have been able to transform yourself into one of the top runners”
“Um, yeah well, I didn’t run a whole lot in high school, I honestly didn’t take running very seriously. I was running 20, 30 miles per week, so just upping my mileage has helped tremendously with fitness, and then adding cross training into that has helped a lot”
however (only credentials is I have run at the collegiate level and now sub elite level) and the phenom era that follows a rapid weight loss in an already talented athlete typically doesn’t translate quite as well in strength-favoured courses
This is a good point. Based on what Coach Smith said regarding OSU Kenyan athlete Billah J. , she may be the one that first starts pressing the pace mid-race. Because the thinner Kenyan athletes can handle hills. But cold weather running may not suit them, so who knows?
But based on that Coaches press conference, and the Roe/Cook interview (their mannerisms, etc.), I’m now thinking OSU is going to be much more dangerous for podium placement than I originally thought. I don’t think it’s a stretch now to say they could even win the trophy, depending upon circumstances.
however (only credentials is I have run at the collegiate level and now sub elite level) and the phenom era that follows a rapid weight loss in an already talented athlete typically doesn’t translate quite as well in strength-favoured courses
This is a good point. Based on what Coach Smith said regarding OSU Kenyan athlete Billah J. , she may be the one that first starts pressing the pace mid-race. Because the thinner Kenyan athletes can handle hills. But cold weather running may not suit them, so who knows?
Did not Smith say she has already run 20:15 on that course?! If that’s true, she might be the next collegiate mega-talent.
“Um, yeah well, I didn’t run a whole lot in high school, I honestly didn’t take running very seriously. I was running 20, 30 miles per week, so just upping my mileage has helped tremendously with fitness, and then adding cross training into that has helped a lot”
Yes I saw that. We probably all have our own interpretations of the various comments. For me it's the overall perspective, that she hadn't been running much (whatever that was) prior to her 10:10 2 mile in high school, didn't take running seriously, didn't run all all her senior year.
Then she was injured a lot, didn't train during the summer prior to the 2021 cross country season and just started building up during the season. Then from my perspective she ran quite well in the 2021 cross final on that limited training.
Then after that she didn't train in the spring due to recurring injuries and just started training again a couple of weeks prior to the 5ks. I'm not sure when she started the cross training. Personally I'm not concerned with the running details but would be interested in the type of cross training and details that both Parker Valby and Natalie Cook have been doing. That would be interesting, to me anyway.
“Um, yeah well, I didn’t run a whole lot in high school, I honestly didn’t take running very seriously. I was running 20, 30 miles per week, so just upping my mileage has helped tremendously with fitness, and then adding cross training into that has helped a lot”
Personally I'm not concerned with the running details but would be interested in the type of cross training and details that both Parker Valby and Natalie Cook have been doing. That would be interesting, to me anyway.
I think it is a very interesting subject for all of us. From past interviews, we know Cook uses the Elliptical primarily, whereas, Valby has used the pool, the Elliptical, the bike (maybe? not sure on that one), but she prefers the Arc Trainer, because its kinematic motion simulates running better than the Elliptical.
Valby didn't collapse. She was tripped by Orton and fell back but still finished less than 20 seconds behind Mercy Chelangat who's the top returner. Considering Valby had hardly been training that was quite a good finish for her. Chelangat also appears in much better condition now than she was a year ago.
I saw the contact at about 4K which caused her to stumble (but not go down, and caused Steelman to have to react). Some said she was actually tripped a little later and went down. Is that correct?
In this interview Valby said she tripped "a bunch of times" and got boxed in and then fell around 4K. However based on her description of where it was it was probably around 4.6K.
There is also a lot of discussion of all the injuries since her HS junior year. She went into last year's XC season without having been able to run much during the summer.
