BTC doing another 5000m time trial tonight, this time with live streaming on USATF.tv starting @ 11:25PM ET

Bower Man wrote:

Here's to hoping Grant, Sean & Evan can find another super-fast 5k to race in later this summer.

Great 5k openers for themselves last week --- pace thru 4k was 13:25 and they finished in 13:11 - 13:12 with 55-56 last laps- and now perfect pacing tonight.

One has to wonder just how close these three are now to sub-13 if they had perfect weather and went out at 13:10 pace? Maybe Jerry will set up something for them next month or September with Mo & Lopez rabbiting again.

For sure the three guys you mention could run faster based on what we saw them do a couple of weeks ago and now, but to who’s benefit?

Realistically, the benefits from their recent altitude training camp will be lost by August, unless they return quickly to altitude, and another month or two is a long time out to hold a peak which may come in a matter of a week or two.

Maybe now having been at sea level for a couple of weeks, they will run some shorter distance races in the coming weeks to see how their training has been going for those distances as well. Then take stock of it all and assess, have a break, and then get back to training for 2021.

What pacing. Gotta wonder what the Inge brothers would have done last night in that scenario.

Best guess:

Jakob: 12:41

Henrik: 12:53

Filip: 12:55

Lol.....

Jakob could not run under 13

Anyway do these times will be accepred by IAAF and do Mo Amhed get world leading time?

Has Kincaid recently been injured/just getting back into shape? Wondering why he wouldn't try and go for the american record at this point

Lol. Must be bonkers to think Jakob could not go deep under 13 in a tt like this.

5k tt wrote:

Lol. Must be bonkers to think Jakob could not go deep under 13 in a tt like this.

What make you think he can run sub 13? He has crashed outside twice and ran an unimpressive 5k road race this year.

That’s not really how altitude training works. It’s just an extra stimulus to improve aerobic fitness. Sure you might not feel as good 8 weeks after an altitude camp as 1 week after, but the effect of training and living at altitude had already taken place to advance fitness

Kincaid>Lomong wrote:

John Wesley Harding wrote:

Houlihan 14:36

Schweizer 14:39

Ahmed 12:58

Lomong 13:03

Kincaid 13:12

Scott 13:14

Now obvious that Lomong can never be faster than Kincaid. Lomong had the perfect conditions and pacing that Kincaid had 10 months ago but still cannot run faster. You'd have to be an idiot to put Lomong ahead.

Meh. I wouldn’t say that.

This was a perfect race for Ahmed. Lomong ran his last 800 in 2:08 (those were his slowest 2 laps by far). If he ran his race from 3400-5000, he runs a few seconds faster. Instead, he went for it with Ahmed and blew up. Nothing wrong with that.

Beyond that, don’t forget Lomong SMOKED Kincaid at the US Outdoor Champs after winning the 10k too.

Increased red blood cells/hematocrit effect from living/training at altitude doesn’t last at elevated levels for very long but can seem to linger at lower levels for a while. There are limitations and precautions to take and not everyone reacts the same. Up for debate on how long altitude effect lasts when one comes back down to sea level and same holds true on everyone reacting differently.

douglas burke wrote:

Mo Ahmed is now All Time #10, Only 7 Ethiopians and 2 Kenyans have run faster. It also Breaks Lagat's Area (North America) Record.

Wow. So he’s now the fastest Mo of all time? Sir Farah can’t be pleased about that.

Lion belt wrote:

5k tt wrote:

Lol. Must be bonkers to think Jakob could not go deep under 13 in a tt like this.

What make you think he can run sub 13? He has crashed outside twice and ran an unimpressive 5k road race this year.

Uhhhhh, maybe the fact that he ran 13:02 with like a 52 second last lap battling a 12:40 runner to the line in a piss poorly paced DL race?

5k tt wrote:

Lion belt wrote:

What make you think he can run sub 13? He has crashed outside twice and ran an unimpressive 5k road race this year.

Uhhhhh, maybe the fact that he ran 13:02 with like a 52 second last lap battling a 12:40 runner to the line in a piss poorly paced DL race?

53.7 last lap and still beaten

CV pace goes home devastated.

Here is a link to the full race

https://youtu.be/7GP3A-e4ByU

46g wrote:

WhoisResponsible wrote:

How many watched, get back to me when you have that answer.

You are crazy annoying. Wow.

I'd be very interested also. Can we get a # on how many watched live? And in the meantime, any guesses??? I'd venture that it was well under 1,000. So maybe 5 or 600 got to view 2 of the all time best ever US performances? And to see Moh (when did Mo become Moh btw) drop a sub 4 last 1600? Pathetic.

Runner10287 wrote:

Can any confirm they started on the correct line? We sure this wasn’t a 1480?

Track short. No video. Not fair. Shoes too big.

I am amazed at Karissa. I wonder what she did to improve her form. Her form at her final NCAA championships was really bad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pggcclw_GMk

Would like to see what jenkins, engels, and osako can do against the btc boys

My favorite photo from last night:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CChbWm7Hh5e/