agip wrote:
sounds like trump is losing his mind
It's so easy to lose the small things.
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The Kamala collapse is real.
Better luck in 2028!
#FTLH
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agip wrote:
Voting matters wrote:
Even at its “all time high”, the DOW is only up about 3% APR above inflation. Under Trump it was about 10%.
I just did a back of the envelope check on the SP500 and that suggests you are wrong.
I have the CPI up 19% since Biden took office.
I have the SP500 up 60% since Biden took office, incl dividends.
I know there's some compounding complications but back of the enveloping...
SPX return of 60% - Inflation of 19% = around a 41% total return.
41%/3.75 years of the Biden admin
= around 10.9%/year of after inflation return.
nowhere near the 3% you are claiming.
Check your data though - maybe I have something wrong in the maths.
Keep in mind the market has rocketed up - maybe your data used to be true but aren't anymore. We're up 35% in a year you know.
Your post was on the DOW, not the S&P and you know that, but I will run numbers on both since you are incapable of understanding compounded interest:
S&P growth Trump: 12.05% above inflation
S&P growth Biden: 6.12% above inflation
DJIA growth Trump: 9.97% above inflation
DJIA growth Biden: 3.53% above inflation
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Another morally challenged Democrat....
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An example of how to calculate returns:
s&p today = 5836.69
CPI 09/24 = 315.3
s&p when Biden took office = 3857.46
CPI 01/21 = 261.6
s&p when Biden took office adjusted for inflation = 4649.30
total growth above inflation = 25.54%
take the 3.83 root = 6.12% APR
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Kamala locked up tons of recreational weed smokers. What a hypocrite.
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Democrats rigged 2020 election crime blotter:
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Harris has to deal with the shrewd plans of her opponent in his interview at the Economic Club of Chicago with John Mickthlewait:
”Micklethwait: Should Google be broken up?
Trump: I can't believe the DOJ is suing Virginia over its voter rolls. I haven't gotten over that.
Micklethwait: The question is about Google, Mr. Trump.
Trump: Google is very bad to me. They are rigged just like the government.”Trump first, as always.
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Mickelthwaite
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Sigh
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The party of law and order in display.
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Trump is feeble
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Right wingers are flooding the zone with bs polls to skew averages. Don’t fall for the BS.
Latest national polls:
TIPP: Harris 49%-46%, +3
Ipsos: Harris 51%-48%, +3
YouGov: Harris 51%-48%, +3
PA:
TIPP: Harris 49%-45%, +4
Siena: Harris 49%-45%, +4
Crosstab
The national YouGov poll shows Black voters supporting Harris 87%-12%. Same as Biden '20.65 -
Mick Jogerr wrote:
Right wingers are flooding the zone with bs polls to skew averages. Don’t fall for the BS.
Latest national polls:
TIPP: Harris 49%-46%, +3
Ipsos: Harris 51%-48%, +3
YouGov: Harris 51%-48%, +3
PA:
TIPP: Harris 49%-45%, +4
Siena: Harris 49%-45%, +4
Crosstab
The national YouGov poll shows Black voters supporting Harris 87%-12%. Same as Biden '20.Same YouGov that named her most Liberal Member of the Senate?
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Mick Jogerr wrote:
Right wingers are flooding the zone with bs polls to skew averages. Don’t fall for the BS.
Latest national polls:
TIPP: Harris 49%-46%, +3
Ipsos: Harris 51%-48%, +3
YouGov: Harris 51%-48%, +3
PA:
TIPP: Harris 49%-45%, +4
Siena: Harris 49%-45%, +4
Crosstab
The national YouGov poll shows Black voters supporting Harris 87%-12%. Same as Biden '20.Morning Consult has been consistently showing 50% to 46% for Harris. They poll about 8-10,000 likely voters. Those numbers are very close to the general election in 2020.
I really do not see any reason 2024 numbers would be very different from 2020. The number of Dems who flip to Trump will be a very small if not insignificant number. Same for the number of Trump voters who will flip to Harris. Neither candidate has done anything to break out and pull in large numbers of new voters or flip existing voters. Trump has been doing nothing but red meat for his base. Harris has been running the usual centrist Dem campaign that passes up on big winning issues (medicare for all, minimum wage, climate change, etc.) and throws out some bits and pieces to make it sound like she will do something. She is also heavy on the Trump is a crazy fascist. But everyone already knows that.
I think this election is going to be a repeat of 2020. Razor thin margins in the swing states that could go either way. But the general election will be 50% Harris or more and Trump in the 45-46% range. The media is playing up any poll result that is close (NBC's was even recently) to try to get ratings by making it look like Trump is gaining on Harris. But everything is the same and nothing has happened that would cause the race to tighten.
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Trump will be within 1-2% of the popular vote. In fact, he might win the popular vote outright. MA6A!
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Trump Uber Alles wrote:
Harris has to deal with the shrewd plans of her opponent in his interview at the Economic Club of Chicago with John Mickthlewait:
”Micklethwait: Should Google be broken up?
Trump: I can't believe the DOJ is suing Virginia over its voter rolls. I haven't gotten over that.
Micklethwait: The question is about Google, Mr. Trump.
Trump: Google is very bad to me. They are rigged just like the government.”Trump first, as always.
And if not stupid, nonsense answers like that, he's ducking questions by dancing awkwardly on stage for nearly 40 minutes.
If Biden had done something that crazy... my goodness the right would have gone nuts.
Meanwhile, she's giving thoughtful, articulate answers with Charlamagne Tha God, and will even go on FOX to do an interview.
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