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fred wrote:

The Independent:

"The athlete – who admitted that his career was now over – said he had learnt how to use EPO over the internet and injected it daily in the bathroom to prevent his girlfriend Kostner and his parents from knowing what he was doing. "I did everything possible not to involve anyone else," he said.

Schwazer suggested he actually wanted to get caught because the guilt was psychologically devastating. He said he could have tried to skip the 30 July doping test, knowing he had made a final injection a day earlier, but did not. "I'm not made to take drugs or to deceive people, and I couldn't take it anymore. I couldn't wait for the whole thing to end," he said."

Alex also paid Dr. Michele Ferrari 20,000 euros for "advice." Discussion of how to use EPO is documented in emails between them.

I also can't take it anymore and can't wait for the whole thing to end Alex.

Fred! I am glad you are back on the thread.

Would you enjoy reading a long article about "Healing Hans"... with pictures of Hans and Paula Perfect Radcliffe smiling together in the article?

Of course you would.

I did not know before reading the article that Hans was originally from EAST GERMANY.

Oh boy.

rekrunner wrote:

Looks like Victor Conte is just trying to sell his services.

There's no doubt about that at all. But it's a service worth buying. Why do huge banks employ ex-hackers to shore up their security?

rekrunner wrote:

How about d) there were positive results from Osaka 2007.

Just recently the IAAF retested the Helsinki 2005 and Osaka 2007 samples, with 32 positives for 28 athletes.

Which must, logically, equate to either of the following in 2007:

b) The testing used in 2007 was not very good at detecting drug cheats

c) Positive tests were covered up

rekrunner wrote:

Just speculation on my part, but I think it's likely the initiative came from the Russians, as a response to the introduction of the ABP in 2009, rather than from Diack. Let's see what we learn from criminal investigations.

You are probably right.

fred wrote:

Schwazer is back baby!

Also there is a new article about Bekele in the New York Times! Kenenisa also went to go see "Healing Hans"…just like Paula Radcliffe.

There is a part in the article where Kenenisa Bekele refers to his previous encounter with me...on a bike... just before the London marathon.

Kenenisa even refers to me as "very clever" in this part of the article:

Part of this distrust stems from beliefs in the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church, athletic officials said. Religious figures known as debteras are considered fortune tellers and magical healers but are also said to summon spirits that bring misfortune and sickness. Some athletes carry protective amulets and sprinkle holy water into their workout bags, fearing that competitors could put a hex on them, Zeru Bekele said.

In late September, on his way to train at Entoto, a eucalyptus forest above Addis Ababa, Kenenisa Bekele stopped to pray at a shrine outside the octagonal, brightly painted St. Mary’s Church. He referred to debteras as priests and said he considered them “very clever.”

“If they want to make someone crazy, they can,” Bekele said. “If they want to kill you, they kill you indirectly. You can’t see, but they send some powers, some evil, to you.”

He sure is correct about that last part. I also hope that Yannis Pitsiladis is stopped and arrested by the authorities as soon as possible.

I can see that Alberto Salazar also has fears that competitors could put a hex on his athletes; e.g. Galen Rupp or Mo Farah.

Instead of sprinkling holy water into his workout bag, Alberto sprinkles Androgel (testosterone gel) into his workout bag…and also sprinkles Androgel (testosterone gel) on his son with subsequent targeted lab testing.. to see if a hex could possibly lead to a positive doping test for testosterone.

Better safe than sorry.

rjm33 wrote:

Would you enjoy reading a long article about "Healing Hans"... with pictures of Hans and Paula Perfect Radcliffe smiling together in the article?

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/7324261/germany-dr-hans-wilhelm-muller-wohlfahrta-great-healer-quack-hyperactive-syringe

I've read that article before - it is profoundly disturbing on many levels.

Summarised as: "The world's best athletes routinely fly 1000s of miles to have dubious and unknown substances injected into them."

rjm33 wrote:

I can see that Alberto Salazar also has fears that competitors could put a hex on his athletes; e.g. Galen Rupp or Mo Farah.

I heard that he was so afraid of this, he felt compelled to rub hex gel into his son and then test for it.

Every good East African pharmacy stocks it.

cleans wrote:

I wonder whether Diack ever influenced borderline cases?

WADA's report, as most of us know, states that: "He sanctioned and appears to have had personal knowledge of the fraud and the extortion of athletes carried out by the actions of the informal illegitimate governance structure he put in place."

It's far from adventurous to suggest that he might have sought financial gain from athletes on the cusp of a sanction.

I'd love to see the entries in his bank account.

Some French people are looking at the entries in the "Black Tidings" bank account in Singapore. This "conspiracy story" now has diagrams and flow charts to try to keep track of where the MONEY comes from and where the MONEY ends up.

Also…Thanks for the information on the Hex gel.

I sent a case of Hex gel to Alberto Salazar. He uses that stuff like crazy.

You can get 15% off if you buy a case (12) at one time.

I also sent Fred 3 cases, Kenenisa Bekele 4 cases, and got 17 cases for myself. Hex gel is a common "go to" magical spell potion used by debteras…similar to the "go to" Actovegin used by Hans Wolf-fart.

fred wrote:

Schwazer is back baby!

Fred!... There isn't some "conspiracy story" in the NY Times about conspiracy spy stuff with Russian FSB agents in the anti-doping lab during the Sochi Winter Olympics...with switched urine samples at night through a hole in a wall...and use of 3 different anabolic steroids taken with whiskey (Chivas) for men or vermouth for women (Martini)... which were also distributed by the head of the anti-doping lab at Sochi…is there?

I maybe, sort of, heard some conspiracy rumor by an internet weirdo...a long time ago...in a distant galaxy far away…

More from another "sub 2:00 plan" smarty pants... Pitsiladis:

As a doctoral student, Pitsiladis experimented with giving runners a pint of heavy cream as a prerace meal. The idea was to use fat and help delay the depletion of carbohydrates, the body’s main fuel source during high-intensity exercise.

But Pitsiladis had come to believe that a two-hour marathon might be best achieved by bombarding the system with glucose.

For instance, Owen Anderson, a consultant to the Sub2 Project who coached elite Kenyan road runners in Michigan, gave his athletes eight to 10 ounces of a sports drink about 10 minutes before a race to get accustomed to a bloated feeling. (They drank more during competition.) To further get accustomed to an uncomfortable feeling in the stomach, the runners sometimes practiced by eating ugali, a Kenyan porridge, or cabbage before training.

“My runners can eat a Sichuan Chinese dinner before they run,” Anderson said jokingly.

Against convention, Pitsiladis theorized that the second half of a two-hour marathon would be run faster, not slower, than the first half. As runners burn fuel and become lighter during a race, he said, they should become more economical, needing less oxygen to maintain a certain speed.

When runners drank, Pitsiladis believed, they could shave precious seconds by squeezing fluid from a bag instead of opening a bottle, as elite runners do on the course. And perhaps, he said, they needed to drink little or nothing in the second half of a two-hour marathon.

Pitsiladis called Ross Tucker an “armchair professor” and felt he could help allay suspicions about drug use.

The number of athletes using banned substances at the higher levels of marathon running is probably “very high,” Pitsiladis conceded. But if anyone can help curb doping, he said, he can.

“I want to beat those on drugs,” Pitsiladis said, adding: “I want to say, in a sense, yes, drugs have been taken, but not by my athletes, and I’ve just smashed the two-hour barrier without them. It breaks the argument ‘I’m going to use drugs because it works more than science.’”

Jos Hermens, a Dutch Olympian in 1976 and a manager for a number of the world’s top marathon runners, who is helping to fund the Sub2 Project.

Pitsiladis said, adding: “We know genes are important. We just don’t know which ones they are.”

At one point, his genetics research was sponsored by an Indian restaurant in Glasgow.

The Dead Sea might also be a place to experiment further with satellite technology, which Pitsiladis had tested at the Dubai Marathon in the United Arab Emirates, measuring the ground temperature of each section of the course in real time. He recently obtained 30 small thermometers that runners could swallow to record their temperatures throughout a race.

“I want to be able to link the land temperature to the body temperature,” Pitsiladis said. “What effect does it have?”

Information could be relayed to a runner, he said, perhaps by someone following on a motorcycle who could advise, “Around the corner, it’s cool, so push it more,” or, “It’s hotter; slow down.”

All of these ideas are speculative. But they speak to Pitsiladis’s pursuit of innovation and his refusal to surrender to orthodoxy.

“Yannis is very good at questioning the common wisdom,” said Barry Fudge, a former doctoral student of his who is the head of endurance for the British track and field federation. “At this juncture, most people would be like, ‘No, no, no, you’ve got to be crazy.’ Well, Yannis is crazy enough to do it.”

Oh boy. Fred. We have to get this nutcase away from Bekele as soon as possible. Please contact the authorities before the Manchester 10k race that is coming up and maybe we can stop him in time.

Wait a second Fred! I think the NY Times has made a mistake with his name. The article says his first name is Yannis.

The correct first name is Yanni.

Sorry. I couldn't resist that one.

Great article about Healing Hans. She paid him to inject her every 2-3 months for 17 years. Injected with fluids that nobody but Hans knows the composition of.

Getting injected with "secret substances" from a "trusted doctor" is a great way to avoid responsibility for doping. "Gosh, I didn't know there was anything illegal in those injections! He told me it was just distillations of calf blood and extractions from rooster combs! Why should've I been skeptical!"

In addition to being a cheat, Paula also seems to have a hatred for animals. God knows how many ostriches, roosters and baby cows were mutilated for her concoctions.

Here's a snippet of the article for those who don't want to wade through the entire thing.

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Radcliffe, 37, has been a faithful patient since Muller-Wohlfahrt first treated her for a foot stress fracture 17 years ago. Now deep in preparations for the 2012 London Olympics, Radcliffe returned last spring from altitude training in Albuquerque, N.M., complaining of tightness in her lower back and legs. "Not feeling strong," in the words of Muller-Wohlfahrt.

As an "Outside the Lines" reporter watched, the doctor spent an hour listening patiently while tending to Radcliffe. As she lay on a treatment table, the sinewy, muscled distance runner gradually morphed into a human voodoo doll. The doctor went about sticking her with a bevy of needles, injecting a numbing agent and then leaving the needles in place. Into the needles' plastic base or hub that remained above the skin, he followed with injections of natural lubricants and hyaluronic acid.

Radcliffe sighed as the initial injections penetrated deep beneath the skin, with some needles 2 to 3 inches long. Muller-Wohlfahrt used his right hand to deliver 14 injections into her lower back. Another two were directed into the front of her right hip, followed by four into the top of her left foot. He then manipulated her legs wildly -- left and right, up and down.

A grinding, high-maintenance athlete like Radcliffe finds herself returning to Muller-Wohlfahrt's office every two or three months for similar treatments. "I call it coming for a tune-up or checkup," says Radcliffe, effusive and back to her perky self after the session, which she allowed a reporter to watch. "Because I have worked with the doctor so long, he knows right where to check."

She prefers his use of natural substances, saying athletes have become wary of doctors who rely on cortisone to deal with inflammation and to mask pain.

"A lot of athletes know about him," she says of Muller-Wohlfahrt. "He is someone they trust."

This is all a scheme by Yanni[s] to get people to buy into his kickstarter.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/vivobarefoot/the-original-san-dal

transfused wrote:

This is all a scheme by Yanni[s] to get people to buy into his kickstarter.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/vivobarefoot/the-original-san-dal

Oh boy. Not only are these Yanni sandals made from antelope skin…there is another serious problem with the sandals which brings us full circle back to our conspiracy story with another c……….!

From your link:

For the $100.00 Investor:

A piece of jewelry made from ostrich egg shell and local feathers.

What was that?

I have notified the ASPCA and PETA. Of course. That is obvious.

And to deal with a serious Anti-Doping Rule infraction like this…I have also called Bindi Irwin about these Yanni sandals... and she told me she is on this case as of this actual instant of now.

Watch out Yanni Pitsiladis!!!

Bindi Irwin and Fred are going to shut you down.

And stay away from Kenenisa Bekele.

I am also working with Fred on the ostrich and running form connection in this conspiracy story:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm4Xj_5bslg

Fred's running form is really improving this year.

Boaty McBoatface wrote:

A grinding, high-maintenance athlete like Radcliffe finds herself returning to Muller-Wohlfahrt's office every two or three months for similar treatments. "I call it coming for a tune-up or checkup," says Radcliffe, effusive and back to her perky self after the session, which she allowed a reporter to watch. "Because I have worked with the doctor so long, he knows right where to check."

We covered this topic a lot earlier in this thread, but it is definitely useful to remind people about it.

Shouldn't Paula want to know *exactly* what is going into her body? Or any athlete for that matter?

Here is someone rather famous who is less trusting of Healing Hans, and in fact appears to consider him a bit of a quack:

Interesting article, moreover, on the growing frustration within Spain on the failure to deal with the Fuentes blood bag issue:

Nadal asked for the ITF to publish all his data

(A classic misdirection, knowing obviously that they won't do this)

The ITF replied that he has all the data from ADAMS and can simply publish it himself

He hasn't done so

rekrunner wrote:

I was talking about the events. The limiting factors for the marathon (e.g. glycogen management, or the importance of muscle/tendon elasticity) are not existing, or not the same as for cycling or cross-country skiing, or the 5K. EPO/Steroids can help in a 5K, while be disastrous for the marathon, by consuming too much glycogen. You have to look at the specific sport.

Your argument is consistent with the numb skull arguments of Jon Orange.

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Have you ever raced a marathon? Ever run over 30 miles for a training run? Ever trained at altitude. Ever run 26.2 @ x pace for training? Ever run progression runs? Ever run over 150 miles a week?

How would you know what effect steroids or EPO have on daily training? Have you talked to elite runners who were using?

Your gibberish is no different than Jon's, but at least he has a page showing competitive results for his 40's.

"Against convention, Pitsiladis theorized that the second half of a two-hour marathon would be run faster, not slower, than the first half. As runners burn fuel and become lighter during a race, he said, they should become more economical, needing less oxygen to maintain a certain speed."

Jon listed 2 men as mentors or influences. One was Pitsiladis.

"more economical, needing less oxygen to maintain a certain speed" is a phrase Jon would use. You can see where he got it.

As well Pitsiladis was the experimenter giving EPO to subjects.