2019 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion

Most of their athletes have gotten better this year since Devin left. He was totally disorganized. Drew was sleeping with his now-wife while she was on the team. The athletes are happier with the new coaches and their results show it.

I have zero connection to this program or know anything about what may or may not have happened. It may be true that the runners are happier with their new coaches. Below are the XC results for the past few years - one unbiased way to measure results.

XC Conference Team Finishes Men Women

New Coaches 2018 8th* 3rd

Previous Coaches 2017 4th 5th

2016 6th 2nd

2015 3rd 3rd

*Tied for last w/Cal State Northridge

At least on this measure it appears the women DID do better than the previous year (from 5th to 3rd), but about the same as 2016, 2015.

For the men it appears the opposite has happened with better team finishes the previous 3 years as compared to last fall. Maybe someone got sick or some type of other anomaly, but at least on paper, it would be difficult to argue the men have run better under a new coach. Perhaps they turned things around at Regionals and/or during the Indoor/Outdoor season.

All that said, perhaps the new coaches entered a very challenging situation and may have done the best job they and the runners could do.

Format correction

XC Conference Team Finishes

Men

2018 8th* - New Coaches

2017 4th - Prev. Coaches

2016 6th

2015 3rd

*Tied for last w/Cal State Northridge

Women

2018 3rd - New Coaches

2017 5th - Prev. Coaches

2016 2nd

2015 3rd

8th!!! I don't care what you inherit, UCD should never ever tie CSUN men in cross country. No disrespect to CSUN, there are so high roadblocks to distance success.

Matter of fact ... I hope the coach does stay at UCD just so we can see. Devin and Drew have both gone on to have tremendous success. We will see.

Then again, sometimes the impostor syndrome is simply rational thought - For example, Beth Alford Sullivan really doesn't deserve to be the head coach at Tennessee.

Clemson distance....pays up to $64,500

https://cujobs.clemson.edu/psc/ps/JOBS/EXT/c/HRS_HRAM.HRS_APP_SCHJOB.GBL?Page=HRS_APP_JBPST&Action=U&FOCUS=Applicant&SiteId=1&JobOpeningId=104371&PostingSeq=1&amp

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SIU Edwardsville distance

https://siue.hiretouch.com/job-details?jobID=9769&job=assistant-cross-country-and-track-field-coach-9769

The weird flex at Davis is their club team has 2-3 guys they need. Nathan Kwan was a 14:30 guy who never wanted to be on the team. What the F is up with that?

Checkyourself wrote:

8th!!! I don't care what you inherit, UCD should never ever tie CSUN men in cross country. No disrespect to CSUN, there are so high roadblocks to distance success.

Matter of fact ... I hope the coach does stay at UCD just so we can see. Devin and Drew have both gone on to have tremendous success. We will see.

Checkyourself wrote:

WinnytheBish wrote:

They finally have a couple of great distance coaches, so hopefully they stick around.

Congrats got the worst comment ever.

“Finally have a couple of great distance coaches” ... finally???????

Drew and Devin were/are LIGHTYEARS ahead of the current distance coach that stumbled hard into that position. Don’t even get me started on the experience going in.

I'd like to get you started about the experience you had, because from what I have heard the state of the program is the opposite of what you just said.

WinnytheBish wrote:

Checkyourself wrote:

Congrats got the worst comment ever.

“Finally have a couple of great distance coaches” ... finally???????

Drew and Devin were/are LIGHTYEARS ahead of the current distance coach that stumbled hard into that position. Don’t even get me started on the experience going in.

I'd like to get you started about the experience you had, because from what I have heard the state of the program is the opposite of what you just said.

I meant the experience of the coach taking over.

This is a waste of time. Go read the bio yourself.

Actual d1Coach wrote:

Could Erin have been hired in part due to gender? Perhaps. Is she less qualified than some other applicants? Who knows. I wasn’t part of the process.

What has been left out of this is that schools do interviews of candidates. Erin may have had a great interview that blew people away. Other candidates may have sucked in person. Some qualified candidates may have come with baggage or salary expectations that Chatham could not meet.

My point is, there were likely a combination of factors that lead to her being offered this position and however you all feel a lot it she impressed the hiring committee at Chatham and earned a head coaching position. I wish her the best of luck.

That's true ... a new head coach with less experience but with energy and enthusiasm might turn out to be great or be a total bomb ... whereas someone with more experience but an okay but not great record is probably going to always be average. There's less down side but also less up side. It's sort of like recruiting ... you're looking for the hidden gem. Good luck to her!

cal fulerton open?

cali-axed wrote:

cal fulerton open?

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Where did the distance coach go from

SIU-E!????

All Mine wrote:

Clemson distance....pays up to $64,500

https://cujobs.clemson.edu/psc/ps/JOBS/EXT/c/HRS_HRAM.HRS_APP_SCHJOB.GBL?Page=HRS_APP_JBPST&Action=U&FOCUS=Applicant&SiteId=1&JobOpeningId=104371&PostingSeq=1&amp

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Whats the story there? Obviously poor results, but any kind of support to work with?

DollysPardon wrote:

Where did the distance coach go from

SIU-E!????

I'm guessing this was Kayla Brown, not McDannald, but I could be wrong.

All Mine wrote:

Clemson distance....pays up to $64,500

https://cujobs.clemson.edu/psc/ps/JOBS/EXT/c/HRS_HRAM.HRS_APP_SCHJOB.GBL?Page=HRS_APP_JBPST&Action=U&FOCUS=Applicant&SiteId=1&JobOpeningId=104371&PostingSeq=1&amp

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This is Andreas position. Stay in the ACC, not have to move far. She has already changed her unc photo on her instagram account, which wouldn’t be good for recruiting if she were staying at UNC. Clearly she’s out of there as she was expecting to be the new director.

Is this Clemson University right outside Los Angeles?

Mercer has been filled by Josh Hayman

Checkyourseld wrote:

WinnytheBish wrote:

I'd like to get you started about the experience you had, because from what I have heard the state of the program is the opposite of what you just said.

I meant the experience of the coach taking over.

This is a waste of time. Go read the bio yourself.

Okay thanks Devin