You can receive a dx for autism at any phase of your life, and females are often late diagnosed and present diffently then males (which btw the dx criteria is based off of)--which means they did NOT have access to resources. Camille may be a lot of things, but shes been pretty accurate about this area and the most recent scientific information.
You can receive a dx for autism at any phase of your life, and females are often late diagnosed and present diffently then males (which btw the dx criteria is based off of)--which means they did NOT have access to resources. Camille may be a lot of things, but shes been pretty accurate about this area and the most recent scientific information.
Your information is dated.
Lol you are full of crap.
Thats not what you wrote in your previous message. You previously typed that ones brain can change during their lifespan and start to exhibit autism.
Autism does not show up later in life. Show me any type of modern day social services that cater to adults with autism. I will wait on you to do so. All services specifically cater to children with autism. Here you are one day frolicking in the flowers and saying it all makes sense to you now. What does it matter at this stage in life from a government standpoint when all your opportunities have already passed?
You can receive a dx for autism at any phase of your life, and females are often late diagnosed and present diffently then males (which btw the dx criteria is based off of)--which means they did NOT have access to resources. Camille may be a lot of things, but shes been pretty accurate about this area and the most recent scientific information.
Your information is dated.
Lol you are full of crap.
Thats not what you wrote in your previous message. You previously typed that ones brain can change during their lifespan and start to exhibit autism.
Autism does not show up later in life. Show me any type of modern day social services that cater to adults with autism. I will wait on you to do so. All services specifically cater to children with autism. Here you are one day frolicking in the flowers and saying it all makes sense to you now. What does it matter at this stage in life from a government standpoint when all your opportunities have already passed?
That isnt what I said at all. Like. At all.
This is what I said in my first post: "Any one of us can experience a change in our ability status at any time, and that WOULD impact our involvement in advocacy. Its not wild or inappropriate at all." And my second post aligns with that.
You are responding to something you made up in your own mind, or you have a comprehension issue.
You can receive a dx for autism at any phase of your life, and females are often late diagnosed and present diffently then males (which btw the dx criteria is based off of)--which means they did NOT have access to resources. Camille may be a lot of things, but shes been pretty accurate about this area and the most recent scientific information.
Your information is dated.
This is 100% accurate.
I'm about the same age as Camille. The criteria for being diagnosed with autism in the early 80s were different than today, and girls were rarely diagnosed because they tend to exhibit symptoms differently. Girls/women also tend to be better at masking their autism symptoms.
There are a ton of very uneducated, inaccurate and outdated comments on this thread regarding autism and when/how one is diagnosed with it.
She probably spent most of her life masking her symptoms, and is now discovering that she functions better with accommodations.
I'm not trying to justify the lack of communication that happened, which I'm sure was massively frustrating to everyone involved with the situation.
As someone on the spectrum myself and who has loved ones on the spectrum, I can tell you that some aspects of autism may actually be a superpower when it comes to ultramarathons.
Things such as repetition, especially long periods of excessive repetition, such you experience in most ultras, and especially in 24 hr track or short loop ultras, do not bother many of us. Many of use actually take peace and happiness from the repetition.
I myself am at a similar place on the spectrum as Camille, in what was previously known as Asperger’s. I had done marathons and ultras before and I would not even think of asking for an accommodation. Sure there are things about the race atmosphere that would cause be anxiety, but there are also areas where my autism superpower would give me advantages (I.e. enjoying excessive repetition). I consider it a wash. We all have strength and challenge, whether on the spectrum or not.
If I was on a governing body for the race, I’d only agree to her accommodations if she promised not to use her superpowers. Since she can’t do that then the event should not give her an accommodation.
She’s looking for an unfair advantage, to reduce her challenges while preserving her strengths, while everyone else has to try and balance both.
Her cry for fairness ring hollow, she isn’t interested in fairness to her competitors, but rather what gives her the advantage.
She’s looking for an unfair advantage, to reduce her challenges while preserving her strengths, while everyone else has to try and balance both.
Her cry for fairness ring hollow, she isn’t interested in fairness to her competitors, but rather what gives her the advantage.
This right here. Say it louder for the people in the back. This rings true for all the other behavior she has exhibited. she is not interested in “the truth” or “what’s right”. She is interested in feeding her ego to try and feel less insecure.
Not to mention many of us on the spectrum have significantly higher pain and discomfort tolerances than do most neurotypical people. Big advantage in ultra running.
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Things have evolved. Btw, did Camille run her lifetime bests with regular or Super shoes? That can make a significant difference.
Vaporflys. Nice try.
Ok. Let's still recognise that she's a world-class ultra runner.
You know it just occurred to me that it's kind of getting out of hand all this hate towards her. Not productive.
Camille is far from being a perfect person but I imagine there are a few people in her life who love her so I think it's time to get a little bit of a balancing act and some of the people who appreciate her come out and give some explanations as to why she behaves the way she does.
On another note, I looked up her partner Connor Holt, and he's a former sub elite Irish marathon runner with a best time of two hours and 17 minutes. She's obviously in good company as far as training and training programs go if she mimics some of the training which took Conor to that high level.
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Søren Kierkegaard
I don’t care if she is autistic, neither should any race organizers.
It’s the world championship, champion of the world. Best in the world with the rules of the competition in place.
if you don’t like the rules, go away. Sports are unfair, that is the whole point! Winners and losers. Usain Bolt was very fast, others are tall, strong, no one is equal athletically.
If I were in charge, no exceptions, no rules changes, no special treatment.
I don’t care if she is autistic, neither should any race organizers.
It’s the world championship, champion of the world. Best in the world with the rules of the competition in place.
if you don’t like the rules, go away. Sports are unfair, that is the whole point! Winners and losers. Usain Bolt was very fast, others are tall, strong, no one is equal athletically.
If I were in charge, no exceptions, no rules changes, no special treatment.
She wouldn't qualify for Paralympics because her IQ, most likely as a College graduate with an M.S. in Exercise Science is undoubtedly well above 75.
Besides no ultras in Paralympics. Longest is marathon, but I suspect she'd be up there if she can still run 2:45:00-2:55:00.
Where does she go from here? She's at a crucial crossroads in her life, at age 44+. Tbh, feel sorry things have gone so far.
Source: AI
"Athletes with autism can compete in the Paralympics under the Intellectual Impairment category (II1), provided they meet specific eligibility criteria, including an IQ of 75 or below and significant limitations in adaptive behavior, with the disability having its onset before age 18. The classification is not a separate category for autism but an intellectual impairment category that includes individuals with autism who also meet the intellectual disability criteria. Once classified, athletes are grouped by their specific sport and classification number, such as S14 for swimming or T20 for athletics. Eligibility for the Intellectual Impairment category IQ score: Athletes must have an IQ of 75 or below. Adaptive behavior: There must be significant limitations in adaptive behavior, which affects how an individual learns and responds to life changes. This includes issues with conceptual, social, and practical skills. Age of onset: The intellectual impairment must have occurred before the age of 18. Assessment: A psychological assessment is required to verify that the athlete meets the World Health Organization's criteria for intellectual disability."
