Jonathan Gault has written an in-depth feature on what Shelby Houlihan's prospects are moving forward. He quotes 3 shoe execs as to whether there is a market for her, has quotes from her new agent Paul Doyle and also a quote from Jerry Schumacher as to whether or not he'd want to coach her.
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To be clear, Whiteness isn't a get out of jail free card. We don't give Russian runners the same rope, for example. And if Galen Rupp was ever popped, I doubt he'd be treated the same, but whiteness is a factor.
Saying whiteness is a factor is just lazy. I get why humans do that (you're the racist and can't see anything but race) - but it's really just not true. If Yared Nuguse - the goofy dentist wannabe was caught up in a similar situation - and all of his teammates and his coach said he was clean, you don't think he'd be treated similarly?
bizarre that you are suggesting I am racist and can't see anything but race. If you read what I literally wrote you will see that I am very much seeing other factors, and acknowledging that many white runners would not receive the benefit of the doubt. And whiteness IS a factor in this case Rojo are you kidding?? lazy my a**
I actually DON'T think Yared Neguse would be treated similarly. I don't. Perhaps you think so but I certainly don't. I think suddenly Yared would get reallll Ethiopian and not so American to the media if he found himself in this situation. And you know what else I think would happen? We'd drop him. Forget about him. Not pay him any mind. Because to us he'd suddenly not be that lovable wannabe dentist from Kentucky. He'd be an East African doper. You think that there'd be podcasts and articles written about Yared Neguse's character and innocence? Good sir, what country are YOU living in?
For whatever reason, it freaks you out to acknowledge the truth that whiteness carries privilege and bias. That black athletes get spoken about in terms of their natural talent and gifts, while white athletes are praised for their character. When a white student succeeds its for their hard work and character, and when an Asian succeeds, it's because they are Asian. And this bleeds into when someone does something wrong. That's why white people serve shorter sentences than black people for the same crimes, it's why black students get in trouble at higher rates than white students for doing the same things in school.
And you think whiteness had NOTHING to do with this? Of course it did! It wasn't everything but it did matter.
To be clear, Whiteness isn't a get out of jail free card. We don't give Russian runners the same rope, for example. And if Galen Rupp was ever popped, I doubt he'd be treated the same, but whiteness is a factor.
Saying whiteness is a factor is just lazy. I get why humans do that (you're the racist and can't see anything but race) - but it's really just not true. If Yared Nuguse - the goofy dentist wannabe was caught up in a similar situation - and all of his teammates and his coach said he was clean, you don't think he'd be treated similarly?
to say that whiteness isn't even a factor is ignorant to the point of pig-headed
he's not saying race is the only factor, it's one of many that's going in her favour
Nuguse might get treated the same by a small subset or running afficionados, but overall culture would judge him differently and absolutely he'd get judged more harshly.
Racism is not binary. White people are not always opressors and black people not always victims. But humans evolved in tribes and interpret different identity factors (language, sex, race, clothes) to make irrational judgements about people.
To be clear, Whiteness isn't a get out of jail free card. We don't give Russian runners the same rope, for example. And if Galen Rupp was ever popped, I doubt he'd be treated the same, but whiteness is a factor.
Saying whiteness is a factor is just lazy. I get why humans do that (you're the racist and can't see anything but race) - but it's really just not true. If Yared Nuguse - the goofy dentist wannabe was caught up in a similar situation - and all of his teammates and his coach said he was clean, you don't think he'd be treated similarly?
so letsrun should ignore the business side of the game entirely? I think w/o a doubt she was on the burritos heavy but reporting on the development is simply journalism w/ in their scope.
Are you saying that was not propaganda?
Or are you saying their one-sided reporting is good for their business? That could very well be so, but it definitely is *not* "simply journalism".
she needs to get in the bin, the convicted felon. cant race organisers just make a pack to not invite convicted cheats to any of there meetings, therefore denying them prize money and the chance to run fast times and qualify for major champs? the money for her will soon run out and she'll have to resort to Onlyfans to fund herself
she should be charged for drug posession and defrauding law abiding athletes loss of earnings and spots at major championships. she a convicted drug cheat and should be erased from the sport
Saying whiteness is a factor is just lazy. I get why humans do that (you're the racist and can't see anything but race) - but it's really just not true. If Yared Nuguse - the goofy dentist wannabe was caught up in a similar situation - and all of his teammates and his coach said he was clean, you don't think he'd be treated similarly?
to say that whiteness isn't even a factor is ignorant to the point of pig-headed
he's not saying race is the only factor, it's one of many that's going in her favour
Nuguse might get treated the same by a small subset or running afficionados, but overall culture would judge him differently and absolutely he'd get judged more harshly.
Racism is not binary. White people are not always opressors and black people not always victims. But humans evolved in tribes and interpret different identity factors (language, sex, race, clothes) to make irrational judgements about people.
Why is this so hard for you to understand.
Are you saying Foolihan was treated differently because she is white¿ if Naguse got popped he would get a lifetime ban or something worse than 4 years¿ Or because he is black his Tainted Magical Beef/Boar Testicle Burrito excuse would work and he would get off or he would only get 2 years¿
You are making false statements. She didn't take spots from anyone. She was prohibited from competing. She was clean prior to that. Making up your own facts maybe keeps you sane but is prohibited on this website.
Saying whiteness is a factor is just lazy. I get why humans do that (you're the racist and can't see anything but race) - but it's really just not true. If Yared Nuguse - the goofy dentist wannabe was caught up in a similar situation - and all of his teammates and his coach said he was clean, you don't think he'd be treated similarly?
+1 Who is Knighton ??
Yes. Knighton. And no, it was not "all her teammates". Not even sure what that is supposed to mean.
If someone didn't dope, the teammates cannot know either way. Ask Paula.
If someone did dope, and the teammates (and coach) were in on it, they would know, yes, but then lie about it out of self preservation. So one could argue that the fact the *some* teammates claim she didn't dope is actually evidence to the contrary.
We don't need to talk about hypotheticals here, because we already had Gatlin - who also kept claiming to be innocent - come back after his 4 year ban for intentional doping.
Letsrun did not give Gatlin's agent the Quote Of The Day pretending Gatlin was indeed innocent. He was also routinely called Drug Cheat Gatlin, but for some miraculous reason Letsrun hasn't said Drug Cheat Houlihan yet iirc.
Yes. Knighton. And no, it was not "all her teammates". Not even sure what that is supposed to mean.
If someone didn't dope, the teammates cannot know either way. Ask Paula.
If someone did dope, and the teammates (and coach) were in on it, they would know, yes, but then lie about it out of self preservation. So one could argue that the fact the *some* teammates claim she didn't dope is actually evidence to the contrary.
We don't need to talk about hypotheticals here, because we already had Gatlin - who also kept claiming to be innocent - come back after his 4 year ban for intentional doping.
Letsrun did not give Gatlin's agent the Quote Of The Day pretending Gatlin was indeed innocent. He was also routinely called Drug Cheat Gatlin, but for some miraculous reason Letsrun hasn't said Drug Cheat Houlihan yet iirc.
That's because both of the Brojos and Gault have been in the bag for Houlihan since the moment she got caught.
I can't remember on what thread it is, but Wejo posted a defense about Shelby's burrito, something to the effect of, "it was really greasy!"
To be clear, Whiteness isn't a get out of jail free card. We don't give Russian runners the same rope, for example. And if Galen Rupp was ever popped, I doubt he'd be treated the same, but whiteness is a factor.
Saying whiteness is a factor is just lazy. I get why humans do that (you're the racist and can't see anything but race) - but it's really just not true. If Yared Nuguse - the goofy dentist wannabe was caught up in a similar situation - and all of his teammates and his coach said he was clean, you don't think he'd be treated similarly?
why do we have to deal in hypotheticals? show an actual counterexample, not one you concocted in your mind.
in my mind the factors in order of importance are american > female > white, but they're clearly all involved to some degree