Always fun to give adult in the room a public beat down every once in awhile. Kids a masochist I don’t know why he keeps coming back
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trashcan wrote:
The article breaks down violence from people with psychotic disorders, non-psychotic mental illnesses, and substance abuse. It does reference a journal article that looks at the role of psychotic symptoms in violence.
psychotic symptoms occur in many disorders, including bipolar disorder, and major depressive disorder.
additionally, if the plan is to prevent mass, killings by forcibly hospitalizing or medicating people with mental illnesses, I would imagine that we would be looking at people with psychotic symptoms, and not hospitalizing everyone with depression, substance abuse, or a personality disorder, so the focus appears appropriate
Say what you mean then. If the author meant that most mass shooters aren't psychotic, then say that, but don't try and disingenuously claim that that means they're mentally healthy.
I would say the mental illness mass shooters experience is mostly related to very extreme depression and stress, leading to displacement aggression, and in most cases suicide. These are kids who have probably been at the bottom of the "pack" since childhood and have faced much stress and alienation their whole lives, but also have just the right genetic factors to have a proclivity for violence as a means of coping. I think if we can learn how to intervene early in childhood, if at all possible, these things wouldn't happen and we wouldn't need to strip away rights.
There are two articles that address two different questions. One is a journal article what is written for the general public. The journal article was only one of the references for the article for the general public.
The one bit of language that should be altered in the record for the general public is that when it’s stated the contribution of mental illness to mass killings has decreased over time, it should have stated that the contribution of PSYCHOSIS to mass killings has decreased over time. Of course, the general public’s understanding of what constitutes psychosis is sufficiently off that the sentence would have been misinterpreted if written that way.
as to the latter part of your statement, I would agree that our culture has evolved into a growing medium for mass killers. I suspect our notions of best interventions are quite different.
I also would not be so sure that these killers meet dsm 5 criteria for depression either. Ther srticle i referenced indicates that for the most part it is not the case.
Furthermore, an awful lot of criminal behavior is tied to personality disorders, and substance-abuse. In addition, there’s a lot of mental twistiness that doesn’t meet criteria for any dsm 5 diagnosis.
Finally, if you are looking for a source of bias for Dr Girgis, you are missing the most obvious one:
He is a psychiatrist faced with the prospect of his patients being punished on top of their existing suffering.
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Rick Cheney wrote:
Always fun to give adult in the room a public beat down every once in awhile. Kids a masochist I don’t know why he keeps coming back
You call me angry and then go a furious unhinged rant for multiple posts... and then declare victory.
You amuse me.
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I’m gonna go out on a limb and say maybe private companies shouldn’t have sold so many assault rifles to the American public. That’s my contrarian take of the day
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Guns have proliferated like cell phones in the last 30 years. It’s been fairly easy to buy a gun for a long time but the assault style rifle that’s been used in most recent shootings is very easy to find and purchase as opposed to 30 years ago.
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Rick Cheney wrote:
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say maybe private companies shouldn’t have sold so many assault rifles to the American public. That’s my contrarian take of the day
What's an assault rifle?
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It’s like a woman. They can’t define it
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PutinInTheRoom wrote:
Guns have proliferated like cell phones in the last 30 years. It’s been fairly easy to buy a gun for a long time but the assault style rifle that’s been used in most recent shootings is very easy to find and purchase as opposed to 30 years ago.
always remember almost all armed crimes are committed with handguns. Sure, the mass shootings are usually done by long guns, but if we want to bring the killing down, restricting handguns would be the most useful place to start.
My personal view is that you make handguns very hard to get and see what the results are. the problem is that the lives saved would be poor black and hispanic kids...the school schootings of white kids would go on. So the perception would be that limiting handguns did no good.
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adult is wrong again wrote:
really dude? Yes, guns are far easier to get now. Republicans and right wing rogue judges has destroyed most commons sense gun laws and lowered the barrier to get guns and Conceal carry permits.
I’m genuinely curious so if you or anyone else could back this up with proof then that would be interesting to me. I’m pretty sure this shooter would have been able to purchase a firearm any time in the last 50 years but maybe I’m wrong about that. I have a gun enthusiast friend who I plan to ask about it
It is not easier to get guns today than it was in the past. Go back to the 19th century and see how hard it would be to get a gun, especially out west. I was in HS in the 90s and kids had their hunting riffles in their trucks during hunting season. We were smart enough, as a generation, to not kill our classmates. Now you have kids not smart enough not to eat bleech and generations that claim they are the most oppressed ever. If you didn't live through the great depression or WW2 you don't have it harder than your ancestors.
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Actually, the vast majority of “mass shootings” (the 600+ per year number the media constantly talks about) are done with handguns.
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Over 100 mass shootings already this year in the country.
And for those who are countering that many homicides are not in schools, get it straight that the left wants to reduce those kinds of homicides as well by reducing easy gun availability. Having loopholes for background checks at gun shows is absurd. Most stolen guns now are stolen from cars. Having guns for personal protection is nonsense. If your gun isn't stolen and used against you and others, like all those guns stolen from cars--and houses--then it's you and your family that you need to worry about. Homes with guns have nine times the gun death rate of homes without guns.
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To be blunt, nobody cares about a shooting in a ghetto part of Chicago at like 2AM
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Republicans: *Use rhetoric calling all trans people groomers/pedos*
Republicans: *Actively prevent any gun control*
Republicans: *Constantly escalate tensions with violent rhetoric*
Trans person: *Shoots up a school*
Republicans: *Shocked Pikachu face*
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Rick Cheney wrote:
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say maybe private companies shouldn’t have sold so many assault rifles to the American public. That’s my contrarian take of the day
What's an assault rifle?
the man knows his talking points. Adult is a good little puppet.
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Belarussiya wrote:
This was a hateful ex Catholic girl that went to this school and turned trans. Not saying she was hateful and evil because she was trans, but that’s for the motive of the attack. I understand her frustration and anger, forcing to believe in some sky daddy to decide everyone’s fate. But I noticed this about liberals in America, they will be the first ones to attack Christianity and Catholicism but will be Uber silent when it comes to criticizing enormous anti-gay restrictions Muslim countries or Muslim communities with prison and even death sentences. Same goes for any criticism of Jewish people, their rules of being supreme in “the land of milk and honey” and whatever other arrogance is silent when being discussed amongst white liberals. America is a toxic, vile cesspool of right vs left and Republican vs Democrat where there is numerous hate like this, another example is the terrorist who shot up some gay club in 2022. And republicans, those greedy, delusional scumbags won’t enact gun legislation to make it harder for terrorists like the one today and the one in Colorado last year to acquire weapons. What we will be seeing on the news is right wing channels obsessing over the motives of this vile woman on the news and ignoring the problem of little gun restrictions , and left wing news completely ignoring the motives of this vile woman on the news and only talking about gun control. America is destroying itself from within.
How did the Catholics get drug into this? It’s a Presbyterian School. And if she was mad at people for “being mean to her,” why did she murder 3 nine-year olds whom I’m sure never did one damn thing to her?
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The Colorado Springs shooter identified as non binary.
The Denver shooter identified as trans.
The Aberdeen shooter identified as trans.
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How is it Republicans’ fault that a transgender goes crazy?
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