jamin wrote:
Drew Peacock wrote:
Not so fast. A lot of people use bumble to gain instagram followers.
"A lot of people"
It's safe to say those who use dating apps as a front for promoting their Instagram page fall into one gender almost exclusively
I've seen a lot of women on bumble writing things like "I don't care about your instagram. I'm not going to follow you on instagram." So whilst I assume the vast majority are women, it seems some men do as well.
Imho, it's clear from the emoji the guy used that he knows she's faster, and he tried to make a joke.
jamin wrote:
Dating culture in the U.S. just sucks. Gender war. Lack of transparency.
According to a foreign-born guy I talked to in the sauna yesterday, women in Europe will straight-up tell a guy that she's available.
Interesting post, I've heard from others that dating women in other countries and regions has less drama as well (Asia, Europe).
Charlesvdw wrote:
Imho, it's clear from the emoji the guy used that he knows she's faster, and he tried to make a joke.
I liked Molly but if she comes across as a tough person to deal with I wouldn't want to date her. That would spill over into other areas of the relationship. Even if the guy apologized, was communicative and explained to her that it was a joke it might not be good enough.
Men could improve communication skills, to be fair, but in some cases it might not work. Some people can just be straight-up mean or rude just because they can. It's a dating app; everyone is basically commoditized and FOMO is a thing there, like they are currency/items/things to be looked at/used/discarded if they aren't good enough.
jecht wrote:
actuallyagreewithLRCforone wrote:
I'm a woman and matured well past my 20's ;). I like Molly's running and completely cheered for her in the Olympics and NYC. Loved some of the post-Trials podcasts she was on where she talked very honestly about the mental side of running and how a healthy mind can improve your running.
But I found this IG post to be immature/distasteful as well as her complaint about sub-elites on the Citius podcast. To me, it just seemed a lack of maturity. I can imagine the annoyance of being bothered by sub-elites while in preparations for a big race, but like everyone else, use words and let them know you are in prep mode and can interact after the race. Complain to your friends, but on a podcast where those fans are listening, cringe. And this Bumble guy didn't challenge her to a race. He made a silly joke with a winky face about her beating him. Sure, she didn't use his name, but posting publicly and declaring 'lose my number' ... it's going to be a long life if one can't look at people's intent and adjust accordingly. Yes, it is different than Tony Hawk who tells a story without mocking the people.
I wish her well in running, but I honestly unfollowed her. Hope she can gain a deep confidence that doesn't bring out the defenses at small interactions.
Which podcast are you referring to, I'll go find it and listen.
Is it this one?
https://citiusmag.com/podcast/citius-mag-podcast-molly-seidel/I found this one dated 11/12/21, but am not sure if this is what you are referring to either.
Del Preston wrote:
It looked like a smug overreaction to me. Yikes, Molly, no wonder you're single. Signed - a former fan.
She's laughing at you, and she's not alone in that.
gibberish, still wrote:
Drew Peacock wrote:
Do hobbyjogger groups do flat out sprints? I think they just jog.
The example I'd give if you ever see groups playing sports casually at parks: Basketball, volleyball, frisbee, soccer, softball/rounders, tennis, etc. If a man has to run 10m, 20m, 50m, or whatever, as fast as he can, to try and win a point, do you really think he is moving much slower than a distance runner?
25 second 100m is only a little quicker than 7:00 mile. I think most 20s-30s men could run at that pace at least briefly (800m say). If you are saying they can't manage that pace at all, what do you think is their jogging pace: 8:00, 9:00? Bear in mind we're talking about young men who aren't overweight.
98% of training groups are hobbyjoggers. like Heartbreakers. They still do speedwork.
a 25 second 100m is 6:42 mile. Most men could NOT run 800m at that pace.
The average jogging pace for a non-runner male starts at about 9:00, and gets uncomfortable real quick. your average 20-something would think they're flying at about 7:00 per mile. Go to a gym and check out the treadmills - you see guys pushing the speed all the way up to 8 for about 15 seconds and then almost falling off the back of the treadmill.
I think you exaggerate how unfit these people are. But I'll admit my initial estimate may have been wrong in the other direction.
I still think I high proportion (large minority) could sprint faster. Do you agree that the type of people she is matching with will tend to be moderately fit and athletic? Do you agree that those people would have at least be slow (e.g. can sprint 100m in 14/15 seconds, can run a 6:00 pace for a few laps, could run 7:00-8:00 pace for a few miles), instead of unfathomably slow?
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hunter wheres the coke wrote:
"It wasn't intended to be offensive, and thus it is impossible for it to be offensive."
What’s offensive is being on a dating app and being offended by the lame flirting that goes on.
Maybe he is fast wrote:
To be fair there are a lot of unknown men who are faster than her. I'm faster than her and most people wouldn't know me. Maybe she matched with a 2:19 marathon/66:30 half marathon rando dude.
Isn't this part of the problem - that we still have gender division categories in distance running? If Molly was a male with her times, she would have very little chance of being a professional runner in the current set up of the sport. There are relatively few professions where one is paid as much due to one's gender as opposed to purely one's work performance/responsibility so it is hard for a lot of the public to relate.
If there were no gender divisions in distance running and everyone toed the starting line on an equal footing then I think people running fast would be respected for running fast period and the public (especially the males) would not be thinking fast for a woman - they would be seeing where someone like Molly would be placing in the overall field of a marathon like Boston etc.... I respect all elite runners and removing gender categories and making the prize money deeper in the overall field would help the public better respect elite runners regardless of their gender.
Lollys Master wrote:
*boring, unimaginative troll bait*
0/10
who's laughing now wrote:
Love that Molly has specifically called out this board of guys who don't understand what a joke is. I expect we will now get a series of posts from those same snowflakes psycho-analyzing that and explaining why what Molly is saying is not a joke and that they in fact tell jokes a lot better than her.
Her response was funny. The simps on here are sad.
appleapple wrote:
Fluid G wrote:
There are a lot of men who can run around 2:20-2:25 for the marathon. She probably would lose to him.
If you think that Molly Seidel would lose a marathon to someone who doesn't know who Molly Seidel is, you're kidding yourself.
A random Kenyan 2h12 marathoner/farmer maybe?
Lollys Master wrote:
Imagine being slow to a point where you gotta run a marathon to be competitive... In addition look like a skeleton with a mans face and have to search places like bumble for romantic relationships.
Then have some guy make an unsuccessful joke about your super niche sport and feel the need to expose him online...
Crazy how many female long distance runners are supporting hate on men. Probably because nobody wants them.
There's no shame in using an online dating app. I didn't meet my future wife on one but a few of my friends did, and if you live in a remote area it may be the only option.
runnereunner22 wrote:Cause the comment doesn't just exists in a vacuum, it exists in a world where female athletes only get 4% of the sports media coverage and 1% of the sports sponsorship dollars.
That is a fine point about sports overall. But is it relevant to track and field and road running? Isn't there pretty much 50:50 coverage at every grand prix and every championship? Do the major corporations sponsor more men than women in track and field? Do they pay them more?
I’m really conflicted here. I think its weird how much strange stuff she’s involved in and this comes off more as ‘look at me and what I have to deal with’ than anything else. I still don’t believe her plane story and I don’t have IG, so I can’t really see what the issue is here, but what I glean from this, some guy hit on her and playfully challenged her to a race. It seems like she takes herself so seriously that she can’t just laugh it off. Much like Quentin Cassidy she should have just run him out in the hills and dropped him after a 32s 200 in the middle.
I feel sorry for people that this is how they have to meet someone. Whatever happened to just asking someone out who you find attractive and maybe having coffee or taking a hike? This weird little dance you have to do with fake emojis, virtue signaling, and a sanitized digital portfolio is kind of sad.
runnereunner22 wrote:
"I like women that don't take themselves too seriously. It's off putting when they actually believe in themselves and have self respect stand up for themselves to men." Fixed it for you.
How was she supposed to answer that then in your opinion?
All of these men are saying she didn't answer him right, then tell us, what she should have said that would have been acceptable?
Let me guess, you wanted her to stroke his ego and be play down her abilities. Or say something flirty back? Sorry that your role playing fantasy bubble got busted when a awesome women didn't fit your sexist internal narrative that you expected her to fit into.
Ideally she would have taken it as flirting and either ignored it or flirted back. It is the posting of it publicly that is more of a problem to me that the reply itself.
jecht wrote:
Lollys Master wrote:
Imagine being slow to a point where you gotta run a marathon to be competitive... In addition look like a skeleton with a mans face and have to search places like bumble for romantic relationships.
Then have some guy make an unsuccessful joke about your super niche sport and feel the need to expose him online...
Crazy how many female long distance runners are supporting hate on men. Probably because nobody wants them.
There's no shame in using an online dating app. I didn't meet my future wife on one but a few of my friends did, and if you live in a remote area it may be the only option.
There's gotta be something wrong with her, if she, being a pro athlete needs bumble. One would think that she could easily meet some runners who would have a good understanding of her career.
But no, she resorts to bumble normies, that she can later expose on instagram for clout.
An example from my personal life. I am a pro and semi-known in my line of work and have never had to resort to online dating, as I have always met women where I worked. Also met my wife this way.
So i can't understand why Seidel has to go to bumble if she is a pro athlete. Isn't there a plethora of 2:20 guy runners that would be happy to date her?
baa baa wool wrote:
dhe7ehdheudh wrote:
Posting a private message, any private message, publicly is not natural, normal, or something that should ever be done by anyone. Even anonimozed you don't make something private public.
Poor snowflake - it's happened since the dawn of time.
Just because something has happened before, and ignoring the fact that at the dawn of time there wasn't a mechanism to make a private message globally available, doesn't make it right. Unless there is something criminal in a private message there is no reason to make it public. I have and will never make a private message public unless there is a crime involved.