Do you find Skechers, Razor&Ride to taper quite a bit at toebox? I briefly tried on a pair of Razor 3s and it seemed to be cut narrow, especially compared to Launch 6.
Speaking of Brooks I'll probably look to Hyperion Tempo since it's built on a similar last to Launch.
AdiVector wrote:
Do you find Skechers, Razor&Ride to taper quite a bit at toebox? I briefly tried on a pair of Razor 3s and it seemed to be cut narrow, especially compared to Launch 6.
Speaking of Brooks I'll probably look to Hyperion Tempo since it's built on a similar last to Launch.
A little, but I prefer that type of fit. Some models have it much more than others, such as the Speed 6 Hyper racing flat.
Since I've hit 50 miles in mine since buying (largely thanks to this thread), thought I've give my thoughts:
* Definitely needed at least a little break in, first run felt pretty bad.
* Noticeably lighter on foot than my other shoes in rotation (Arahi 4, Vongo v3, Guide 13). My M11 weighs 288g/10.1oz vs the Arahi's 309g/10.9oz & Guide's 323g/11.4oz
* The firmer medial side feels a little odd for the first mile or 2, and then I stop noticing.
* No obvious fit issues, upper is pretty comfy.
* Feels very good at medium-ish paces (LR up to MP), less so in the faster & slower ranges.
I've tried a few different workouts in these at LT (6:20ish for me) and found it sadly to be quite a struggle - not sure if that is due to my foot strike or motion etc, but noticeably harder at that range. So perhaps a slight disappointment in that this is not the tempo shoe I was hoping it could be, but definitely has room in my rotation as my go-to LR shoe.
How do they compare to the guide 13? I'm in my 2nd pair of the guide 13, really enjoy them but the Forza 4 seems to be the best stability shoe around.
Just wanted to chime in again and say, just got the Forza 4 and wow, they did everything I wanted them to do. Upper has more hold without being intrusive, uses the new foam compound, and new rubber compound. Literally everything I asked for and nothing else -- proof that Skechers actually listens to their customers. Still going to take my 3's to 500 miles but will start to work these in soon.