same old wrote:
bartholomew_maxwell wrote:
You've never worked in Silicon Valley and had to pull routine 16 hour shifts have you? No amount of time management can help you avoid crunch time. It's all hands on deck to iron out the remaining kinks, do QA testing, etc, before releasing next software version.
Welcome to the prestigious 2020 slavery.
Sheeple on a treadmill!!!
"WRONG WRONG WRONG."
RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT. To give you an example, I had a very thick cable bicycle lock made of titanium, or something like that, that was locked to a bicycle but the key was lost. I took the bicycle to a locksmith. He estimated it would take 45 minute for him to cut it off. I then took the bicycle to a bicycle shop. I said to the guy "Well. this is probably going to take you some time." He picked up an electric cutting from his workbench and within seconds the lock was off!
bartholomew_maxwell wrote:
fghrxths wrote:
"If you want to work for the best, you need to step up your work ethic. "
That's a myth. A big myth. Some people can work many times what someone else does on the same task and still not get anywhere near the results.
WRONG WRONG WRONG....
That's a myth as well. The myth of the quicker-than-thou genius. In most cases, the "genius" simply had longer formative years and worked in the domain longer than the person who takes longer to answer the question. Consider a first year Computer Science major without any programming background vs a kid who grew up tinkering with html and visual basic in elementary school.
That kid who started at the age of 8 has 10 years more total effort placed into their craft. So of course they're going to be faster on the programming assignments. It doesn't change the fact that in total they've had 10 more years of preparation for the problem than the struggling newbie who never saw code before college...
There is some truth to this, but it is not the whole story. I have crossed paths with MANY software people with lots of experience who just don't think logically. They write spaghetti code, don't know how to methodically test, and basically come in shotgun blasting to try to fix bugs and usually make more bugs. I have worked in Silicon Valley and it was no different, in some cases worse. Companies were so desperate for "talent" they would hire anyone with a pulse and a software correspondence course. It has been good job security for me.
In running, like engineering, there is a talent component. Some people have great form / efficiency without trying. Some people respond to training stimulus almost immediately. Some are slower but make significant long term adaptions. Those with less talent (bad form, poor adaption) can work harder and get better. That works to a certain level. However, when you move up in level (D1, national class, international class runners), it basically comes back to talent because everyone is working hard. That kid who gutted his way to 4:23 in HS running 75mi/wk often doesn't make the cut. The kid who ran 4:23 in HS off 20mi/wk might make it. Who has "more total effort placed into their craft"?
To the original post - Capillaries get built by consistent aerobic exercise, as much at high aerobic as possible. Read books by the best: Lydiard, Daniels, etc. They all emphasize high aerobic efforts.
"Read books by the best: Lydiard, Daniels, etc. They all emphasize high aerobic efforts. "
If you want to really know about capillaries and aerobics go to the best source - read "Aerobics" by the father of aerobics, Dr. Kenneth Cooper.
bartholomew_maxwell wrote:
doogiski wrote:
You must be a troll, claiming you work those hours yet you created this thread 6 hours ago and have been active on it ever since. Nice try though, at least do a better job making a more believable story. The lack of effort on this attempt is embarrassing.
Umm, I also said that is for crunch time hours. Plus things are slow right now because of coronavirus so projects are in a hold status. No one is really working long hours right now.
I'm in software and I am. I bet Steve Wozniak would be working long hours even right now, getting his floppy code thing perfected, or planning his next best floppy disk thing project. Not posting on running forums every 5mins.
This post nails it. Lots of high end aerobic runs, not slow jogs, not time trials. Sort of run when you finish you feel alive and could go again if needed. In fact runs when you finish you are itching to go again. Lots of these, everyday for months and years.
stateroftheoblivious wrote:
As I recall capillary growth will be diminished if your heart rate is above about 135.
So you want easy long runs.
State your source because you are wrong
RyecorDone wrote:
Angiogenesis increases proportionally to muscle fiber growth. So anything that builds fiber size automatically builds more capillaries. So, mere EZ running does nothing for capillarization. There has to be muscle growth stimulus. So, incorporate some hills or strides, I guess. Couldn't find any information to directly answer your question.
Additionally, to spur new growth from new activity, apparently there is a delay. It takes a couple of weeks of steady training to trigger more capillaries. Here's a study, on rodents, that supports this.
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=exercise+induced+angiogenesis&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart#d=gs_qabs&u=%23p%3DVkb9Z8ClN50Jbartholomew_maxwell wrote:
Maybe you'd be working for a Fortune 50 company as a software developer like me if you pulled 14 or 16 hour days instead of 10 hr days.
It's obvious you're not part of Silicon Valley given that you think 10 hrs is a lot...How many of those 10 hrs are you actually working? Maybe 5 effective hours. 1 hour for lunch. And the other 4 are not spent in serious actual development.
My 14 hour days are about 9 hours of nose to the grind coding and reviewing other deverloper's' code. . If you want to work for the best, you need to step up your work ethic.
Keep everything in perspective please and eat some humble pie. I work for a Fortune 25 company and do <10 hr days regularly. I run before or after work and cross train at our on site gym during lunch. Culture is great and top boss at the site will hit the gym as well. Work harder, not smarter and always remember, someone has it better than you.
I've always gone by rule of thumb 60+ min gets capillary growth. But don't think Daniels' mentions it in his book
bartholomew_maxwell wrote:
Cross country skiing is just not very accessible for most....
Get some roller skis
i’ve heard 20 mins
I thought this may have been a training thread of some sort, as opposed to this clown bragging about his non-existent job. Excellent imagination, boring and offensive delivery.
Capillary growth stops after 4 weeks of training. There's only so much room for capillaries, gotta leave some for muscle fibers.
Anything that moves the muscle will cause it. Even connecting the leg to a machine that flex and extends the knee.
Certain strength exercises can reduce it though.
bartholomew_maxwell wrote:
Maybe you'd be working for a Fortune 50 company as a software developer like me if you pulled 14 or 16 hour days instead of 10 hr days.
It's obvious you're not part of Silicon Valley given that you think 10 hrs is a lot...How many of those 10 hrs are you actually working? Maybe 5 effective hours. 1 hour for lunch. And the other 4 are not spent in serious actual development.
My 14 hour days are about 9 hours of nose to the grind coding and reviewing other deverloper's' code. . If you want to work for the best, you need to step up your work ethic.
doogiski wrote:
Funny, I work for a software company (not in Silicon Valley, but still software) and these all hands on deck days never happen. An over-stretched day is when someone works 10hrs, which doesn't happen very often. The time management in question here needs to come from the top with proper PM work to adequately plan out a project's timeline instead of being pressed up against deadlines unnecessarily.
I feel sorry for people who work in these conditions and complain about it. If that was my norm in life, I would be seeking other employment that values a better work/life balance as my value for me personal time far outweighs the time doing my job so I can do things that I truly enjoy, like run... and banter with people on LetsRun ;)
Long term, there's no amount of money that would drive me to consistently put in 12+ hour days. That's squandering your life away.
bartholemew_maxwell has replaced jamin and 430miler as the most annoying poster on these boards.
EPO actually causes capillary growth. Just another positive effect it has in addition to boosting blood count.
Bump
I come on here genuinely looking for advice, and I find people arguing about who has the better job and whatnot. :/
ExperiencedEngineer wrote:
bartholomew_maxwell wrote:
WRONG WRONG WRONG....
That's a myth as well. The myth of the quicker-than-thou genius. In most cases, the "genius" simply had longer formative years and worked in the domain longer than the person who takes longer to answer the question. Consider a first year Computer Science major without any programming background vs a kid who grew up tinkering with html and visual basic in elementary school.
That kid who started at the age of 8 has 10 years more total effort placed into their craft. So of course they're going to be faster on the programming assignments. It doesn't change the fact that in total they've had 10 more years of preparation for the problem than the struggling newbie who never saw code before college...
There is some truth to this, but it is not the whole story. I have crossed paths with MANY software people with lots of experience who just don't think logically. They write spaghetti code, don't know how to methodically test, and basically come in shotgun blasting to try to fix bugs and usually make more bugs. I have worked in Silicon Valley and it was no different, in some cases worse. Companies were so desperate for "talent" they would hire anyone with a pulse and a software correspondence course. It has been good job security for me.
I was both. i was the kid that started early on (long before HTML, more like Vic20, COBOL, Fortran) then went and got a CS degree (C, assembly, scheme, unix, pre java days). I've then been in the software industry for 25 years. The big difference i've found between the self-taught and the classical degree is the self taught usually know enough to get the job done but the CS degree understands how to get the job and the impact thru the rest of the stack/OS/etc. And after being a manager for years, both have their place.
rekrunner does not know this wrote:
EPO actually causes capillary growth. Just another positive effect it has in addition to boosting blood count.
And also affects mitochondria.
So when capillaries are no longer a limit to oxygen transport, EPO will give you more hemoglobin and more mitochondria.