bloodbagviren1 wrote:
AhWhatTheCheese wrote:
What the next% definitely has that some of these others don't is an approachability for slower runners to bop along at 9min pace though because of the stack, softness, etc. But who knows with the most elite runners what the sweet spot is. There must be an upper limit to where stack height, weight, vertical bounce, etc start becoming detrimental. Biomechanics seem too complicated for a real single answer.
Different tools in the toolbox. Variety is good. I just took out the Skechers Speed 6s for 800 repeats on the grass and they killed it. I think you'd probably snap your ankles in any vaporflies doing that.
Again, look at the Japanese running market. Japan is FIERCELY loyal to their own brands. Asics has dominated the market there for years.
The Metaracer has been available for a long time to elites - and every Ekiden team in Japan wore the Vaporfly or variants this year. The ASICS stock price tumbled as a result.
The ASICS flagship athlete Yuki Kawauchi doesn't wear the shoe. He has NEVER worn it in competition. Kipchoge didn't keep wearing Streaks after the Vaporfly came out.
This shoe will make no dent in the marathon space and ASICS need to continue to innovate like they did for the Novablast and Evoride which are amazing shoes.
This is more innovative than a Nike clone though tbh. Would a high stack pebax shoe with a carbon plate be more innovative at this point? Would it be better for the marathon? Maybe. They are doing something different though. Whether that pays off or not, I don't know. But it is more unique in line with the Evoride that you just mentioned. Not owning the market for one type of shoe isn't really that big of a deal, but I get what you are saying. Look at Brooks. They have a big market share and most of their shoes are not very fast. Their marathon racer was a dud by most accounts. My guess is Asics is trying to make a more versatile racing shoe. I wouldn't be surprised if they put out a higher stack version in the future though. I think each brand is trying to put a bit of their own spin on these to differentiate them in the market. Otherwise, everyone would just keep buying the Nikes anyways because they have the most clout around them.