Could the Axis have won WW1 if they didn't all surrender

The entry of the United States was the "straw that broke the camel’s back.” The Central Powers simply didn't have the resources to continue to fight and win the war.

Much of the war was fought in France and until the US joined the war, both the Central Powers and the Allies were starting to struggle. The “trench warfare” had taken a heavy toll on both sides. Millions on both sides were killed in Europe.

Yes, the German surrender took most German citizens by surprise since Germany itself, physically, was pretty much intact. The war had not destroyed that much of Germany. In the final "get-go," wars are won with resources.

Just like World War II, the Great War was largely won by resources.........resources from the United States.

The Treaty of Versailles was a bad, bad treaty. Some historians maintain that the treaty contributed to bringing about World War II. It put Germany in a "can’t win--- can't recover" situation.

Harry Truman always maintained that if there has been a Marshall Plan after World War I, there would not have been a World War II. I believe he was correct.

Also, the failure of the United States to join the League of Nations was a factor in bringing about World War II.

The fall of the Weimar Republic during the 1920's opened the door to the rise of the Nazi's and Adolf Hitler.

Throw in the Great Depression, which struck Europe before it came to the US, also contributed to Hitler's rise to power.

The policy of isolationism and high protective tariffs by the GOP administrations of the 1920’s also contributed to not only the Great Depression but also World War II.

I agree with you. Bankers are into whatever gives them the green stuff. President Wilson was able to keep the US out of the war for approximately four years.

Of course, US corporations were making a great deal of money producing and selling war materials to both sides.

The Zimmerman Note, German U-Boat activity on the high seas and German sabotage on American soil finally led to America's entry into the war. The Brits and the French were very happy (just as in World War II) to see the US enter the war.

Yes, I doubt J P Morgan or any of America's corporate types were against the US entry into the war.

The Germans weren't truly done until their top fighting ace the Red Baron was killed. That was the fork. No Richthofen, no Germany.

[quote]Wolf's Lair wrote:

I agree with you. Bankers are into whatever gives them the green stuff.

Now when it comes to the Israel Project

The Red Baron died on April 21, 1918. He was credited with 80 kills which was the most kills of any pilot on either side. He was and still is a legend.

With that being said, the air war had little to do with the outcome of the Great War. The air war won World War II, however.

By the time of the D-Day Invasion (June 6, 1944) of World War II, the German air force was no longer a factor in the war.

Of course, the bombing of Japan during World War II forced the Japanese to surrender.....AKA........using the two A-Bombs against Japan, along with the “fire-bombing” of Japanese cities.

I think Banana Bread really meant the Axis of Evil and also doesn't understand what the act of surrendering means. But it's Banana Bread. Enough said.

My understanding of letsrun is that a lot of people here think I suck and don't know anything. My knowledge of WW1 and WW2 has literally exploded since social distances have come about and I am home more.

[quote]Banana Bread wrote:

My understanding of letsrun is that a lot of people here think I suck and don't know anything. My knowledge of WW1 and WW2 has literally exploded since social distances have come about and I am home more.[/quote}

See, now here is the kind of thing that creates this sort of image problem for you. Your knowledge of these wars almost surely has not "literally" exploded and your comment suggests that you do not know the difference between a thing happening literally and a thing happening figuratively.

It was an armistice, not a surrender per se. That is why Churchill and FDR were so adament about. an,unconditional surrender during the second World War.

So the Germans didn't surrender. So I guess a lot of the experienced Germans who made 1941 and 1942 so successful for the Hitler were people who survived WW1 and learned from there experiences there. If there wasn't an armistice then Hitler wouldn't have been so successful at the start of the war