https://www.instagram.com/p/B53zNhBHZ6B/Gabe Jennings's Teeth wrote:
Ultramarkus wrote:
I see Dane walking back to his car where his girlfriend sits.
Girlfriend?? Pics or it didn't happen.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B53zNhBHZ6B/Gabe Jennings's Teeth wrote:
Ultramarkus wrote:
I see Dane walking back to his car where his girlfriend sits.
Girlfriend?? Pics or it didn't happen.
Did you talk to any other runners about what you saw? With such a small course and a decent amount of runners, surely others saw part or more of what you saw.
NTXrunner wrote:
Did you talk to any other runners about what you saw? With such a small course and a decent amount of runners, surely others saw part or more of what you saw.
Yeah, I don't see why they wouldn't DQ Dane if witnesses saw him cheating.
I saw that Dane had recently run another easy to cheat race, the Ft Worth Marathon, so I looked up his results. Nothing seems suspicious in his official results, a slight positive split. But looking at his Strava result it just looks strange.
He claims his watch is "acting funny", and that's why the time is 2 min off, but there is no impossible paces recorded or weird GPS jumps that I usually see when GPS watches screw up. It looks like he ran the whole course but just 2 min faster.
There is no information on what device was used to record the data, I have never seen that before.
There is no cadence data.
Strava says he started recording at noon, when the race started at 7AM. So his Strava flyby shows no one else in the race.
https://labs.strava.com/flyby/viewer/#2856582833?c=9vfdpkrd&z=D&t=1To4t2
Compared to a flyby of people who definitely ran the race.
Is there any logical explanation for these results if he actually recorded this activity during the race?
The logical explanation is that he fudged the data from his watch. The real question is why would he do that?
Sounds suspicious from your story and the Strava strangeness. Without other corroboration, you are stuck with not much evidence. Maybe another participant was recording the event to support your claim.
Fort Worth is not very far from Grapevine.
Maybe GPS does not work in this area properly?
But how do 1000's of planes find DFW?
I'm not so sure about him cheating in the Fort Worth Marathon anymore. I looked at every picture within a couple of minutes of any picture of him on the course. He always appears around people running his pace for the race. He would have had to run some distance of the course at his average pace, cut it, then jump back in with the same people he was running with before, and keep that pace up to the finish. It is technically possible since it is 2 laps of an out and back, but it doesn't seem likely. Even though his GPS track is pretty wonky.
So it's a completely open course, with runners of all speeds running a half mile loop, and Markus happens to be the only person who sees him cheat? And he times it at the only time the timer doesn't happen to be sitting at the lap. Come on.
Looking at his laps, on the 59th and 60th laps, he has long delays or times different from his other laps. Seems quite possible that's where he sat and then started again, not going over the mat, and continuing on. Therefore he actually ran that extra 100 yards both ways without it counting towards his total. If anything, that's just dumb to run extra mileage.
This entire thing tells us far more about the OP than anyone else.
Lolz. What the hell is this supposed to prove?
NothingtoSee wrote:
So it's a completely open course, with runners of all speeds running a half mile loop, and Markus happens to be the only person who sees him cheat? And he times it at the only time the timer doesn't happen to be sitting at the lap. Come on.
Looking at his laps, on the 59th and 60th laps, he has long delays or times different from his other laps. Seems quite possible that's where he sat and then started again, not going over the mat, and continuing on. Therefore he actually ran that extra 100 yards both ways without it counting towards his total. If anything, that's just dumb to run extra mileage.
This entire thing tells us far more about the OP than anyone else.
Nice try Dane.
OP has a 30-year resume in ultras.
And it seems like he has given plenty of thought as to how and when he could cheat during them.
jesseriley wrote:
OP has a 30-year resume in ultras.
So?
He is slow and is making baseless accusations. Move on.
NothingtoSee wrote:
So it's a completely open course, with runners of all speeds running a half mile loop, and Markus happens to be the only person who sees him cheat? And he times it at the only time the timer doesn't happen to be sitting at the lap. Come on.
Looking at his laps, on the 59th and 60th laps, he has long delays or times different from his other laps. Seems quite possible that's where he sat and then started again, not going over the mat, and continuing on. Therefore he actually ran that extra 100 yards both ways without it counting towards his total. If anything, that's just dumb to run extra mileage.
This entire thing tells us far more about the OP than anyone else.
If Dane would have walked back, had a break and avoided the timing mat on the second run through, his lap time would be 3-4 minutes slower but that is not the case. So he ran 200 yards but gained 0.51 miles.
He's just using this as a tune up! LEAVE HIM ALONE!
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Exactamundo wrote:
His RV must have been in for a tune up!
Fixed that for ya.
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Well, this is an interesting turn.
Thanks a lot Weldon.
Things like this, need to be discussed in our sport. I got a couple of private mails regarding Dane Rauschenberg and it seems like he is well known for this behavior.
The thing what I will never understand is the why. Why are people cheating in a race? It's not like they are getting some big prize money.
At the end we are all just trying to see how well we are running at a certain time in life. We are competing, but we are competing together with our fellow runners and the main competition is just within ourselves to get the best out of us.