Everyone runs the mile relay at early season dual meets; weight guys vs. distance guys in the 4x4 is entertaining for all.
Everyone runs the mile relay at early season dual meets; weight guys vs. distance guys in the 4x4 is entertaining for all.
Head coach seems like a football guy, and he wants to force the “team” element. Warmup and stretching at practice should be enough “team bonding”. Going out of your way to force the team to be closer is a waste of time. As a poster above said, maybe have all events run in the 4x4 during regular season meets. I’ve seen some teams require all athletes to run at least one 4x4 at some point during the season.
capture the flag on the football field
Ultimate frisbee
The hurdle warm up routine is great for getting people to mix. Finish that with general strength training and core work.
Thanks again for all the advice. Bump for further advice, because it's certainly welcome.
Ultimate Frisbee is probably out. For one thing, as I mentioned, this is the Northeast. In about a week, we probably will have no fields to use, thanks to snow. If I was in NJ or southern NY, this might be viable. Thanks just the same for the advice.
Team showers wrote:
Mandatory team showers... you can pee on someone just like in the movie.
You joke about that, but that happened to me and Indiana.
As a high school distance runner I would have hated any attempt to integrate with the sprinters. Literally nothing they did had anything to do with what I was doing.
It’s like trying to combine the football and soccer teams. It’s really two different sports with very different physiological demands.
If you want to spend more time with sprinters than I suggest you lengthen practice to at least 2 hours. No matter what else you do the distance runners need 60+ minutes of aerobic volume a day to reach their potential.
Coach LL wrote:
It’s like trying to combine the football and soccer teams. It’s really two different sports with very different physiological demands.
If you want to spend more time with sprinters than I suggest you lengthen practice to at least 2 hours. No matter what else you do the distance runners need 60+ minutes of aerobic volume a day to reach their potential.
Good thing swim & dive coaches are not brainwashed as you appear to be. Muscle systems and cardio functions of 50m or 50yd. freestyle swimmers is very similar to muscle system use and cardio to 200m T&F sprinters. Two-hundred metres or 200 yards freestyle swimmers have similar cardio stresses as 800m T&F athletes. There is much overlap in swim & dive. Swimmers do not have such separation from short distance event swimmers and longer distance swimmers is due to no separate cultures for 50m swimmers and 1500m swimmers.
Wintah Track Coach wrote:
Story:
I am a distance coach preparing for the indoor season.
The head coach recently expressed concern that the distance team can be isolated from the rest of the team, and not merely due to the fact that they are running off-site for 30 minutes to an hour each day.
I realize that this kin of cliquishness can be a pretty common thing, and I want to do whatever I can to help team cohesion...naturally, without taking away from the necessary time it takes to train for distance running.
Give me your advice!
How have you dealt with similar situations?
Do you have ideas for drills or workouts that can be done with both Sprinters and Distance runners?
Do you have any ideas for games that might encourage better team unity?
Details:
I'm in the Northeast, so ideally the activities would allow for distance to take advantage of light/warmth.
The whole team already warms up and does plyometrics together at the start of practice.
This is indoor track, so anything that works in hallways would be great...although not necessary.
Practice is usually 1.5 hours.
I'm in Maryland.
When I was a track coach, I created an open field game for the same situation that has a common central goal and points multipliers for continuous possession around different colored cones of different distances that rewards team blending.
I have been looking for the perfect group to introduce and refine it with.
Would you like to hear my idea?
In order for your team to be cohesive, it must first have a common goal to which you will all go together. It will be easier for you to rally the team if you are all about the same age. Also, in addition to a common goal, you must have similar interests, values, and worldviews. One of the important things will be a good team leader who will lead everyone to a common goal. You can hold some competitive games between each other, such as football, basketball, and so on, in order to maintain a competitive spirit. The main thing is not to forget to motivate the team members. I didn't know about all this before until I was advised to look at online communication training here: https://www.colinjamesmethod.com.au/online-communication-skills-training-courses/
What really brings people together is the shared suffering you go through. You naturally get close with the guys you just did grueling hill repeats or just busted out a 12 mile long run with. Spending time together helps make people acquaintances, but the shared suffering builds comradery. More than just 10 minute core. Throwing some 200 guys and milers onto a 4x400 is the kind of stuff you want to be thinking. If you can make the longer speed-endurance days for sprinters sync up a little with the distance guys speed days and have them doing some reps together that helps. Lift together.
Sounds dumb but give them some bonding questions or something to force the team to open up a little. Even if its awkward itll be something they could talk about while stretching later or something.
Dont force it, but kinda spark it
Get them to fight each other. Nothing serious.