he trains in colorado springs with the us army wcap
he trains in colorado springs with the us army wcap
Excellent result. Only U.S. male that has a world class time. And should put him in the top 100 marathoners of the year.
In a world where major marathons are being won in 2:01-2:04 it’s hard to be impressed with a 2:08. Nearly a mile behind the world’s best. Sad!
Best job for him
Dumb dumb dumb guy wrote:
In a world where major marathons are being won in 2:01-2:04 it’s hard to be impressed with a 2:08. Nearly a mile behind the world’s best. Sad!
Leonard Korir is probably one of the fastest clean marathoners of the year.
Hold on there bucko! wrote:
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
This deserves a thread? He is an imported Kenyan, and was wearing the Next%. The leader won in 2:05:08 wearing the Adios 4 and doesn't get his own thread...
LRP, aren’t you from across the pond and haven’t you only been running for like 2 years? Don’t tell us who we can cheer for or not, you are not the expert on Katelyn Touhy or the likes, nor are you an expert on training that you purport to be. You do your thing and we will do ours.
Signed a long time runner and fan of Korir and WCAP
Yet another dumb post by LateRunnerPhil. To be fair, he has his head so far up Tinman's @sshole that it's pretty impressive he can post at all.
Ackley wrote:
The live stream showed him lying on ground after the finish.
I think this shakes up the Marathon Trials. If Rupp is healthy, this likely leaves only one spot open.
Fool, the Chicago live stream showed Rupp lying on ground THREE MILES BEFORE the finish.
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
This deserves a thread? He is an imported Kenyan, and was wearing the Next%. The leader won in 2:05:08 wearing the Adios 4 and doesn't get his own thread...
Well he is American and Americans are fast as the marathon goes so...
We should important more Kenyan runners. If we can't beat them, we might as well join them for the ride.
american psssst
rare wrote:
Hold on there bucko! wrote:
LRP, aren’t you from across the pond and haven’t you only been running for like 2 years? Don’t tell us who we can cheer for or not, you are not the expert on Katelyn Touhy or the likes, nor are you an expert on training that you purport to be. You do your thing and we will do ours.
Signed a long time runner and fan of Korir and WCAP
Yet another dumb post by LateRunnerPhil. To be fair, he has his head so far up Tinman's @sshole that it's pretty impressive he can post at all.
Yes, we should have a thread about this. This is an American website. Korir is American. He’s now one of the favorites for the trials.
Korir is more American than Parsons is German. Korir has lived in America for a decade or so. He trains in America. He went to college in America. Parsons was born, raised, schooled, lives, and trains in America. He’s an imported American competing for another country because he can’t make a US team.
Piling on LRP wrote:
rare wrote:
Yet another dumb post by LateRunnerPhil. To be fair, he has his head so far up Tinman's @sshole that it's pretty impressive he can post at all.
Yes, we should have a thread about this. This is an American website. Korir is American. He’s now one of the favorites for the trials.
Korir is more American than Parsons is German. Korir has lived in America for a decade or so. He trains in America. He went to college in America. Parsons was born, raised, schooled, lives, and trains in America. He’s an imported American competing for another country because he can’t make a US team.
+1
He severed in the US Army(or still is in the Army, not for sure).
The Cold Truth wrote:
So what? He lost by 2:50 to a guy not wearing cheater shoes and to top it all off he’s neither American born nor raised. I guess this means that he may qualify for the Olympics for a country he’s only been in for a few years but at the end of the day this performance isn’t exactly exceptional.
Lmao. Reaching to hate on someone who legally became a citizen. What did you do to earn your citizenship? He's been here since at least 2009
Fools all wrote:
Ackley wrote:
Moves past Meb.
LRC Quick takes by Jonathan Gault:
Obviously this is a huge deal and shakes up the Olympic Trials. A few takeaways:
1) Korir showed his marathon potential two years ago when he ran a 59:52 half in New Delhi. But when I spoke to him at Falmouth in August 2019, I asked him specifically about the marathon and he didn't seem that interested in it as a lot of people had told him how hard it is. He made it look easy today.
2) Korir ran the 10k at Worlds two weeks ago, finishing 13th in 28:05. Was he just training through that and focused on the marathon all along? I'd love to know what his thought process and preparation was like. I reached out to his coach Scott Simmons multiple times this week before the race and he never got back to me.
3) I'm not calling Korir a lock for the team. Yes, 2:07:56 is incredible for an American. But Rupp has run 2:06, and both Fauble and Ward have run 2:09 in Boston. Atlanta is a hilly course and it's a championship marathon. Anything can happen. Ritz didn't make the team in 2012 and went on to run 2:07 that fall.
4) Yes, he was probably wearing Vaporfly Next% shoes. Admittedly, I don't know this for sure, but Korir is part of WCAP and WCAP is sponsored by Nike. I assume he was wearing the Vaporflys.
I wouldn't call letsrun back either. They're not journalists, no matter what they think they are- just gossip mongers with a desire only for controversy.
Yeah ok chief. If they called you, you would be slobbering at the chance to be interviewed.
Piling on LRP wrote:
Yes, we should have a thread about this. This is an American website. Korir is American. He’s now one of the favorites for the trials.
Korir is more American than Parsons is German. Korir has lived in America for a decade or so. He trains in America. He went to college in America. Parsons was born, raised, schooled, lives, and trains in America. He’s an imported American competing for another country because he can’t make a US team.
Yes, he is one of the favorites and is going to take a spot of an American-born runner. No one is questioning Korir's career (started running at 20, worked extremely hard over 10 years to get where he is now, joined the army), his way to US citizenship or his personality.
What is the difference to Parsons and the problem? Superior genetics. Korir, just like Chelimo was born in an area of the world with superior genetics for distance running. THAT was his way to a US college/to the US (nothing wrong with it), he didn't randomly come to the US but he came because his talent for running was discovered in his home country, where running is extremely competitive and it was a great fit for him to attend a US college while he builds his base and develops as a runner.
Now we have more and more US-born runners losing their ability to compete at an Olympic or World level, because naturalized African's who are genetically superior are taking their spots. Yes, we can cheer for Korir, but on the other hand we have to be sad for people like Fauble, Brogan Austin, and many other marathoners that work just as hard but have to compete with these naturalized African-born athletes.
Parsons is abusing his dual-citizenship, but he never had superior genetics due to country of birth (don't get me wrong, all elites got superior genetics but not on the level of African's, especially in the marathon).
The problem is not the athletes we have now, but a potential trend in the future where the whole US marathon or 10k team could consist of runners who were not born in the US, but in Kenya and Ethopia. If our US-born runners realize they will never make a team, because suddenly there are dozen's of sub 2:04/2:05 African's with a US passport, it might become discouraging to pursue a career in the marathon.
But you are right, for now we should just cheer for Korir, he definitely earned it and had a fantastic run, I'm just mostly worried about the future if this trend continues and eventually gets out of control.
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
Piling on LRP wrote:
Yes, we should have a thread about this. This is an American website. Korir is American. He’s now one of the favorites for the trials.
Korir is more American than Parsons is German. Korir has lived in America for a decade or so. He trains in America. He went to college in America. Parsons was born, raised, schooled, lives, and trains in America. He’s an imported American competing for another country because he can’t make a US team.
Yes, he is one of the favorites and is going to take a spot of an American-born runner. No one is questioning Korir's career (started running at 20, worked extremely hard over 10 years to get where he is now, joined the army), his way to US citizenship or his personality.
What is the difference to Parsons and the problem? Superior genetics. Korir, just like Chelimo was born in an area of the world with superior genetics for distance running. THAT was his way to a US college/to the US (nothing wrong with it), he didn't randomly come to the US but he came because his talent for running was discovered in his home country, where running is extremely competitive and it was a great fit for him to attend a US college while he builds his base and develops as a runner.
Now we have more and more US-born runners losing their ability to compete at an Olympic or World level, because naturalized African's who are genetically superior are taking their spots. Yes, we can cheer for Korir, but on the other hand we have to be sad for people like Fauble, Brogan Austin, and many other marathoners that work just as hard but have to compete with these naturalized African-born athletes.
Parsons is abusing his dual-citizenship, but he never had superior genetics due to country of birth (don't get me wrong, all elites got superior genetics but not on the level of African's, especially in the marathon).
The problem is not the athletes we have now, but a potential trend in the future where the whole US marathon or 10k team could consist of runners who were not born in the US, but in Kenya and Ethopia. If our US-born runners realize they will never make a team, because suddenly there are dozen's of sub 2:04/2:05 African's with a US passport, it might become discouraging to pursue a career in the marathon.
But you are right, for now we should just cheer for Korir, he definitely earned it and had a fantastic run, I'm just mostly worried about the future if this trend continues and eventually gets out of control.
P.O.Y.
He's Kenyan! NOT American.
WTF??? wrote:
He's Kenyan! NOT American.
And you're an idiotic American.
Piling on LRP wrote:
rare wrote:
Yet another dumb post by LateRunnerPhil. To be fair, he has his head so far up Tinman's @sshole that it's pretty impressive he can post at all.
Yes, we should have a thread about this. This is an American website. Korir is American. He’s now one of the favorites for the trials.
Korir is more American than Parsons is German. Korir has lived in America for a decade or so. He trains in America. He went to college in America. Parsons was born, raised, schooled, lives, and trains in America. He’s an imported American competing for another country because he can’t make a US team.
Do you think Kenyans are upset that Korir competes for the US? No they don't care. Americans shouldn't care who Parsons competes for, it's Germans that should be upset that he flies their flag.
That's the US debut record right?