Does anyone know if they're going to keep selling the 4% alongside the Next%, or is the 4% essentially becoming discontinued?
Does anyone know if they're going to keep selling the 4% alongside the Next%, or is the 4% essentially becoming discontinued?
I bought 2 pair bc I'm rich like that.
One for a fall marathon, the other for 10k racing and maybe some workouts until they both become workout shoes.
juanito wrote:
Does anyone know if they're going to keep selling the 4% alongside the Next%, or is the 4% essentially becoming discontinued?
4% are gone.
plebian wrote:
juanito wrote:
Does anyone know if they're going to keep selling the 4% alongside the Next%, or is the 4% essentially becoming discontinued?
4% are gone.
Really? I guess someone should tell nike.com to stop selling them.
Make up your mind on what kind of lie you are gonna tell buddy. In another thread you said you get them at 40% discount.
Conclusion: you ain't rich, nor you get 40% off, you are just a fake, a poser, a phony.
See below.
plebian
RE: Wtf VF4% for everyday running? 8/26/2019 1:01PM - in reply to garrettb
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I have some next% that I bought because I get about 40% off. But I was saving for NYC so I bought another pair that I can fart around in and wear to some other races coming up on my schedule. I like having $$$ to spend.
My oldest pair of 4% have about 250 miles. I ran 22 in them the other day and still feel okay but I might retire them soon. I have friends who'd rather have a skunked out pair of 4% than have nadda
It's called excess stock moran.
Just because car companies stop mfg 2018 cars they will still sell 2018 cars as new.
doctorj wrote:
Make up your mind on what kind of lie you are gonna tell buddy. In another thread you said you get them at 40% discount.
Conclusion: you ain't rich, nor you get 40% off, you are just a fake, a poser, a phony.
Cool story bro. What internet points am I gonna win for making up random stuff? Just because I have cash doesn't mean I want to spend full price. And guess what? a shoe that costs $150 is still a lot more than my other shoes which are around $85 a pair.
I've got two pair you don't. Go cry to your mamma and ask for a better allowance.
The VF4 was a shoe that was exalted and near-unobtainable as recently as 11 months ago , and then was finally released to great acclaim, has been discontinued in favor of a new shoe, which is itself already several months old and ready for a new color release or gimmick to to boost sales.
These are wild days for Nike. One has to wonder how they'll keep it up.
plebiam wrote:
The VF4 was a shoe that was exalted and near-unobtainable as recently as 11 months ago , and then was finally released to great acclaim, has been discontinued in favor of a new shoe, which is itself already several months old and ready for a new color release or gimmick to to boost sales.
These are wild days for Nike. One has to wonder how they'll keep it up.
Hey - A follower of the plebe arts...
Well I don't think they're going to increase the price. The next% is the superior shoe for comfort and more importantly grip. Since it's being sold at the same price in a lot of places there's no need to have both. Though you can buy the next % in flynit if you 'design your own' for even more money.
At it's best* for one marathon wrote:
It may only perform at the "4%" level for one or two marathons, then it eventually is beat down enough to where it's like other types of flats.
I still argue that it's not any different. I have 4%'s, only race in them. My workouts before and after the 4%'s were the same, and my races with and without the 4%'s were the same. In fact one race with the 4%'s was actually worse. I think that was to other factors, but I do not think they give you a great advantage, they are just more comfortable and prevent injuries better than other flats
Same deal here. I've used the 4% back to back in several half marathons and four marathons and have yet to really see any difference. I wasn't any faster and I was just as sore and miserable the day after each race, regardless of the shoe I wore.
As Jared Ward said at the end of his BYU study (paraphrased): The Vaporfly is more efficient, but ultimately whichever shoe gives you the most confidence and makes you feel fast, will probably yield the best results.
VF4s are available at sale prices here and there - last month, I snagged a pair at 20% from Dick's but Nike prevents retailers from discounting the Next% just now. I now have two pairs of VF4s and a pair of Next - using my oldest VF4 for speedwork and plan to use the Next in an October marathon if they prove themselves during some time trials; if not, I will stick with the VF4.
UA Runner wrote:
At it's best* for one marathon wrote:
It may only perform at the "4%" level for one or two marathons, then it eventually is beat down enough to where it's like other types of flats.
I still argue that it's not any different. I have 4%'s, only race in them. My workouts before and after the 4%'s were the same, and my races with and without the 4%'s were the same. In fact one race with the 4%'s was actually worse. I think that was to other factors, but I do not think they give you a great advantage, they are just more comfortable and prevent injuries better than other flats
Same deal here. I've used the 4% back to back in several half marathons and four marathons and have yet to really see any difference. I wasn't any faster and I was just as sore and miserable the day after each race, regardless of the shoe I wore.
As Jared Ward said at the end of his BYU study (paraphrased): The Vaporfly is more efficient, but ultimately whichever shoe gives you the most confidence and makes you feel fast, will probably yield the best results.
Ehhhh I think you guys are kidding yourselves a bit here.
My experience has certainly not been that the VF4 is 4% faster than another flat or racing shoe I would buy, and probably closer to 2%-3% faster than my trainers, but even that still makes it the fastest shoe on the market by a decent margin.
wnvkwnvwjeg wrote:
TesterofProduct wrote:
So I have tested 2 pairs of them by being a nike product tester. I must say I have put 300 miles on each pair and felt like they could last double that. I don't why a rep would say they only last 1 marathon. The cushion is fantastic. I was sad that I had to send them back. Don't know if I'd pay the 250$ price tag but it's a great shoe. I only run 40 miles a week but these shoes could last 3-4 months.
Throwing out this review as you work for Nike.
Its BS anyway, 600 miles, Perra por favor..
plebian wrote:
juanito wrote:
Does anyone know if they're going to keep selling the 4% alongside the Next%, or is the 4% essentially becoming discontinued?
4% are gone.
I got a pair of Ekidens for $180 with the holiday discount. Discounts didnt used to apply but now they do!! I gather they just eventually sell out and dats it. The original 4% never went on sale to my knowledge . You had one day to buy them and that was it. Only reason 4%fly is still around because the colors were ugly.
Results so far :
june 10K on road : 36min45 (Brooks Ravenna)
june 6,6K on road : 24min20
july - 10K on road : 35min40 (vaporfly next%)
july - 5K on road : 17min09 (vaporfly next%)
august - 10K on road : 36min20 (Brooks Ravenna)
august - 10K on track : 36min20 (spikes - Brooks Mach 18) => still don't understand this, a guy in Vaporfly's doubled me :/
When I am lined up at the start of a race I look down and see what shoes people are wearing. When I see the Nike guys I just chuckle and shake my head knowing that if they are any less than 4% faster than me then I consider myself to have beaten them.
Don't mean to hijack, and don’t know if this has been posted, found it interesting; although Etonic isn’t mentioned - they had plate tech in the early 80s (I sold them).
https://runningmagazine.ca/sections/training/carbon-fibre-plate-tech-the-calgary-connection/
Says the guy who shoes up in a matching nike kit.
Lol 4% faster? lol
Stop trying to justify your slowness.
I have used 4% for the first time this year and set PB's from mile up to HM distance. They are bouncy and fast. I dont train in them just race. I mainly train in zero drop shoes or Nike Zoom Streaks.
However - the 4% kill my 2nd toes. I have Morton's Toe so 2nd toe is longest. After the HM I had to walk around in bare feet after the race albeit I didn't feel the pain until around 20k. I think a marathon would have been seriously problematic.
Anyway, I bought some Next% one size up, and used them on the track the other day for around an hour running various tempo speed intervals. Again, big toe pain afterwards. I had to take ibuprofen to alleviate it.
Anyone have any suggestions as to why its worse with these shoes and of any ways ( lacing, insoles? ) to alleviate?
Several seconds off per mile over a 26 mile race makes a huge difference