Who murdered Jeffrey Epstein? Or was it actually a suicide? - The one and only Epstein thread

LordEric44 wrote:

The cameras were turned off . No malfunction found.

That’s even more suspicious...

Bob Washington wrote:

Alex87 wrote:

I have recommended this thread for deletion as the OP has made serious claims that a man either was murdered or committed suicide, but has been unable or unwilling to provide any evidence that the individual in question is even dead. It strikes me as irresponsible to speculate when the very premise of the discussion has not been proven.

Mods: please delete this thread and restore only when/if proof becomes available that Epstein is dead.

You do realize that the OP is the co founder of this site right? You’re not gonna get the mods to delete this by whining about it just cuz you don’t think he’s dead. He might not be dead, but it looks like he probably is.

Are you suggesting that a guy who is here for the sole purpose of making ridiculous posts has made a ridiculous post? Good catch, ace.

You usually kill witnesses, not the perp.

There's nothing preventing witnesses from coming forward and telling their story. The death of Epstein doesn't change that.

He didn't flip the last time he was convicted in 2008, so I doubt he was going to flip his time.

This was probably just the last straw. He's been under continued investigation and legal trouble since then.

Alan

Bob Washington wrote:

No one had ever successfully committed suicide in that jail until Epstein, so there’s that. The cameras also had a malfunction so there is no evidence of suicide, plus having the material to commit suicide with him even while being on suicide watch seems pretty idiotic. Also Hillary Clinton is a killer. Remember Benghazi??? Bill has reason to kill because he has close ties to Jeff and could’ve got exposed for being a creep pedophile. Now he’s dead so he can’t.

Bob....I don't want you to take this the wrong way....however....you appear to be a bit of a loon.

Runningart2004 wrote:

You usually kill witnesses, not the perp.

He didn't flip the last time he was convicted in 2008, so I doubt he was going to flip his time.

Alan

Well, all that justice stuff in 2008 was a sham. That is common knowledge now. Not much pressure was put on him.

Everydog wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

You usually kill witnesses, not the perp.

He didn't flip the last time he was convicted in 2008, so I doubt he was going to flip his time.

Alan

Well, all that justice stuff in 2008 was a sham. That is common knowledge now. Not much pressure was put on him.

Unless he had videos, it would have just been his word against whoever he was accusing. It would have been easier and less risky, to call him a lying POS than to have him killed.

rojo wrote:

His death has family members of mine who aren't normally into crazy conspiracy theories wondering if it was really a suicide or not.

Your family has seen first hand how people in power can defraud the american people for personal gain. Why wouldn't they suspect the same is happening now?

Also, being suspicious in this case doesn't seem crazy at all, the three explanations seem to be:

- Some guards were told to look the other way so he could kill himself. I mean, we all love to hate a pedophile, not really a crazy conspiracy there.

- Guards were told to look the other way while he either killed himself, or a guard killed him to protect some powerful people who also raped children. It seems like a certainty at least some other people were involved, he certainly wasnt acting completely alone in gathering girl after girl and assaulting them, people were clearly involved in helping, and multiple powerful people have some awkward quotes from the 90s and 2000s about epstein liking them young, etc.

- Epstein simply managed to kill himself between guard checks.

My point is, all of these, if we fiund out was the truth, wouldn't be shocking. So your family doesnt sound crazy for thinking any of those.

The Clintons are pieces of sh*t, but they didn’t suicide Epstein. He was a Mossad agent, and a valuable source of blackmail material. His Israeli connections are numerous and easy to find with just a little research. Just follow the money and it will lead you right toward our “greatest ally.”

SDSU Aztec wrote:

He had a very bleek future ahead of him so he certainly had motivation to kill himself and he's not the first prisoner to hang himself in his cell.

All the conspiracy theories are fine and good but the logistics would be difficult. My understanding is that are videos everywhere in that jail so an outside killer would be picked up in videos and he also would have needed someone to let him in. A murderous guard would be on video entering Epstein's cell. And not all guards are murderers so how do you figure out which one to approach?

The Clintons were attorney/politicions and not murderers. Trump was a real estate developer/self-promoter and not a mafia don. These long lists of Clinton murders never have a logical motive other than that the Clintons are pure evil.

I 100% get what you are saying. Instead of applying some wild explanation, Occam's razor is normally the best bet.

That being said, if this guy had dirt on Saudi and/or English royalty, billionaires, US President(s), the motive for him to be taken out would be so HUGE.

Occam's razor - suicide may be most likely but if he was going to be killed (or very much allowed to kill himself), is that even possible? How would it be done? Would some some intelligence or ex-intelligence type guy be needed to pull it off?

The fact that he's dead is a disgrace. Given the allegations and the assertions that he had potentially blackmailed some of the most powerful people in the world , he needed to be kept alive no matter the cost. Yes it would have been expensive to have him on suicide watch but it would be worth it - mainly so we won't have wild conspiracy theories undermining people's faith in the powers of the world and the US criminal justice system.

webby wrote:

Why is this "registered" account not banned? Is this considered acceptable, Letsrun?

Did you report the post?

Anyway, always glad to hear from the nutbag contingent . . . like the poster who's saying "Prove that was Epstein! Prove he was dead!" There is literally NO evidence that would convince that poster: S/he would just say that it was some kind of put-up job. Literally, NOTHING would convince that poster: His/her mind is already made up.

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And, sad to say, there are tens of millions of Americans who employ just the same kind of "reasoning": They decide what's true first, then accept anything that seems to support it and reject out of hand anything that seems to dispute it.

Cause of death published not from coroner. No suicide watch. Murder or its equivalent.

rojo wrote:

His death has family members of mine who aren't normally into crazy conspiracy theories wondering if it was really a suicide or not.

What do you think?

The other thread was a little over the top. I'm limiting this thread to registered posters only. If you want to post, you must register for a username. That makes it way easier to moderate.

Just sayin'... wrote:

Did you report the post?

Yes I did.

Furthermore, what's the point of restricting a thread to registered accounts if it's not monitored.

There is a crass, extremely anti-semitic post followed by a post from an owner of the site. The poster wasn't banned and his posts haven't even been removed.

Who believes that cleaning up the site is more important than having clickbait to attract the dirtbag demographic to Letsrun's lucky advertisers?

Michael Smores wrote:

conspiracy BS about the clintons should be deleted

Agree and disappointed about Rojo’s decision to help spread conspiracy theories under the guise of “just asking questions”

Putting in my 2 cents from working in the criminal justice system. Even in a county jail in the most hick county would a prisoner who attempted suicide 2 weeks ago be left unsupervised. The feds are considered the elites . No way do you leave any prisoner like that unsupervised and turn the cameras off.

As to who is behind it - consider this Bill Barr ultimately controls the place . He has proven to be there solely to protect Trump . If Epstein had dirt on Clinton , he would make d*mn sure Epstein was around to spread it , if he had dirt on Trump , it would be convenient if Epstein wasn’t around . Call it a convenient suicide that the Russian bots were ready to spin to create doubt .

Given Rojo’s connection to the Bush family, did he create his thread to throw off the scent of his connection to the Epstein case? Just asking questions!!!

Hounddogharrier wrote:

Putting in my 2 cents from working in the criminal justice system. Even in a county jail in the most hick county would a prisoner who attempted suicide 2 weeks ago be left unsupervised. The feds are considered the elites . No way do you leave any prisoner like that unsupervised and turn the cameras off.

As to who is behind it - consider this Bill Barr ultimately controls the place . He has proven to be there solely to protect Trump . If Epstein had dirt on Clinton , he would make d*mn sure Epstein was around to spread it , if he had dirt on Trump , it would be convenient if Epstein wasn’t around . Call it a convenient suicide that the Russian bots were ready to spin to create doubt .

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And if The Clintons kill those who embarass them, why is Monica Lewinsky still alive? Any of those they allegedly kill - why leave the bodies around?

My wife told me the news yesterday, and we're both thinking it was a hit.

Can't really say who, just that it seems a murder. Likely goes to the top, I'd say offa the top of my head.