Are you kidding me? USA manages to lose both men's 4 x 400, women's 4 x 400 and men's 4 x 100 at World Relays

Relay watcher wrote:

Men’s 4x400 DQ for lane violation during the final exchange.

Lane violation? You don't have to stay in your lane in a 4 x 400 after the 1st exchange.

Ctrl+Alt+Del wrote:

rojo wrote:

How in the world is that possible?

Robert, it is possible because other countries have good athletes too.

I know that but I don't get how we lose 4 x 400s. I guess not having Norman hurt. Why didn't Norman go? Or did he run something else?

The US had 6 of the 20 fastest men in the world last year in the 400 - Michael Norman (#1), Fred Kerley (#8), Nathan Strother (#9), Paul Dedewo (#11), Kahmari Montgomery (#14), QUincy Hall (#16). The next most was Jamaica and Qatar with 2. 10 other countries had 1.

For the women, we had 6 of the top 10 in 2018 in the 400 (Wimbley #3, Irby #5, Ellis #6, McLaughlin #7, Francis #7,Beard #8). Four other countries had 1. How do we lost that event?

As for the 4 x 100s, yes other countries are good but agai not as deep as the US.

Brazil won the men's 4 x 100. Here are the world ranks of their fastest people on the year last year:

#29 (10.02), #45 (10.08), #54 (10.10) and #4 (10.12A)

What proved decisive more than anything else was bad baton changes. The Jamaican women in particular were abysmal. Can runners really be that dumb?

Disappointed Fan wrote:

Unless the IAAF doesn't include classic relays such as 4x800, DMR or 4X1500, this thing is going to die. The 2x2x400 was a joke.

Four x 800m is a great event to watch. I assume you meant 4 x 1500m.

Women’s 4x400 suffered from junior high handoffs. The baton slowed down considerably the last five meters because the outgoing runner didn’t get out aggressively. The 2nd and 3rd legs were subpar. Meanwhile I saw Sydney M cruise to a casual 54.14 400m hurdles and Kendall Ellis do a 52.47 time trial at Oxy on Saturday.

Not sure why Fred Kerley didn’t anchor. Daedewo should run second or third. At least the stick kept moving and that’s the first time I’ve ever see that kind of lane DQ.

The women’s 4x200 handoffs were brutal. Their final time was slower than the sum of their individual PRs by almost 2 seconds.

Young was eaten up on the turn and Lyles didn’t got too well. Gatlin and Rodgers did their job. Ato gave Lyles a pass for not getting out fast enough. Young nearly stopped to give him the stick. The saving grace is the US team has a hands to make amends in the WCs.

Apologize for the autocorrects or predictive spelling from typing on a phone while watching a replay of the relays.

Iowa800 wrote:

Women’s 4x400 suffered from junior high handoffs.

No, it didn't. It suffered from a 53.3 leg by Jessica Beard.

The men's 4x4 was DQed because of a lane violation on Nathan Strother, the leadoff.

Try again buddyro wrote:

Iowa800 wrote:

Women’s 4x400 suffered from junior high handoffs.

No, it didn't. It suffered from a 53.3 leg by Jessica Beard.

The men's 4x4 was DQed because of a lane violation on Nathan Strother, the leadoff.

53.3 def killed them but the exchanges could have been better. I went off what the NBC broadcast said about the men’s DQ. That’s what I get for listening to Ato Bolden.

Iowa800 wrote:

Try again buddyro wrote:

No, it didn't. It suffered from a 53.3 leg by Jessica Beard.

The men's 4x4 was DQed because of a lane violation on Nathan Strother, the leadoff.

53.3 def killed them but the exchanges could have been better. I went off what the NBC broadcast said about the men’s DQ. That’s what I get for listening to Ato Bolden.

Beard specialises in running backwards over the last 40m.

rojo wrote:

I don't get how we lose 4 x 400s.

choosing the wrong anchor against the crafty Cedenio.

Shocking actually! The one bright spot was the 2x4x400 that was for me easily the best event of the championships. Shame more countries didn't enter but how about Australia!!!!

How in the world is that possible? I didn't get up to watch so if you have insight let me know.,

It's possible because not enough ppl in USA running care enough about them.

The US may not be able to pass a baton but I'll tell you- those Polish women are HOTTTTTTTTTTT!!

Most of the East Europeans are amazing!

But I want to go to Poland.

why would anyone pay to fly over to japland just to run sprint relays - no 4x8, dmr, etc

I agree ,the 2x2x4 was the most interesting event to me too.

Armstronglivs wrote:

What proved decisive more than anything else was bad baton changes. The Jamaican women in particular were abysmal. Can runners really be that dumb?

Scroll through the forum, and you'll have your answer. Likely, rather quickly.

why doesn't everyone just e-mail the USATF "relay" coach Orin Richburg. The dude is a clown act and one of the reasons USATF consistently screws up. The guy couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag, yet because he is tight with Duffy Mahoney in USATF (and he is another clown) we keep having issues. USATF coaching selections are a joke.

The clown act of USA relays has a long and rich tradition. Why change now?