You're fatty wrote:
Pics or you're a fatty
Matt London is there for you in that way.
You're fatty wrote:
Pics or you're a fatty
Matt London is there for you in that way.
In all sincerity, i use running shoes for running 6 days a week, and have done so for at least 7 or 8 years now. I haven't yet found a shoe that fell apart or didn't last as long as i would expect them too. Additionally, i am amazed at how many options there are in various weights, heel to toe drops, rebound, colors, price, etc.
All in all, i feel that modern running shoes are amazing.
I have used about a half dozen different brands.
Yes, the quality and quantity is better than ever today but the function is worse. The only shoes I will wear are still the traditional 12mm drop shoes with a protective stack height. Anything outside of this to me is trendy and frankly I believe may cause injury. In fact I ran in lower drop shoe. I like all the other aspects of the shoe but my Achilles got sore and had never done this before I went back to the 12 mm drop and no issues. The only issue is if I don't replace them by about 350 miles I start getting sore. Change to new shoes and it's heaven again.
Honestly I'm not a runner never have been.
I was around 280 lb in high school and excelled in wrestling and football and finally went into a career in MMA cage fighting where I created one of the southeast's largest and most successful teams.
I've also been a athletic coach in wrestling for the public high school system for 20 plus years
In fact I found that Runners had very poor cardio for mixed martial arts and wrestling as they would routinely be gassed out in under 3 minutes.... I sustained a severe leg break at 16 racing dirt bikes and could never run myself thanks to the damage in my hip
It takes a lot of skill to survive on the mat and cardio in one sport certainly does not Translate at all into cardio for another sport
95% of wrestlers run as a form of cardio but they are wasting their time, I've always told my athletes if you have time to run you didn't wrestle enough today.
It's just a easy way for a coach to exercise his athletes without having to teach wrestling skills.
That said I think the shoe situation is pretty simple in that the big manufacturers are just gluing junk together and selling it for exorbitant prices.
Adidas Superstars are great example, these shoes are built like a German tank and while they're not the best for running they are impeccably durable
The original Jordan High Tops or another phenomenally durable shoe
Adidas sambas are bulletproof
I'm just looking for something that has more breathability and can come somewhere closer 2 Old Skool durability.
I try to find forms for other sports before I settled here it seems like this is the only form for shoes around (that's pitiful Imo)
The fact is you just don't see that kind of durability anymore at a reasonable price and I came here hoping to find some suggestions for a more durable shoe
We are talking apples and oranges. You want a cross-training shoe. I bet most of us on here know nothing about anything but running shoes.
Wish we could help you, but i for one know that i cannot.
htyty wrote:
3000 miles. Are you nuts? Treat yourself to new shoes at like 400 miles and enjoy your life. If your worried about the cost keep in mind it will cost more in medical bills if you keep running in worn out shoes.
400 miles? My shoes weren't even broken in yet!!! That's like 50 hours of running. If I wear a pair of shoes around for 12.5 hours in a day, I would be replacing a pair of shoes every 4 days. That is REALLY nuts.
Old and slower...... wrote:
htyty wrote:
3000 miles. Are you nuts? Treat yourself to new shoes at like 400 miles and enjoy your life. If your worried about the cost keep in mind it will cost more in medical bills if you keep running in worn out shoes.
400 miles? My shoes weren't even broken in yet!!! That's like 50 hours of running. If I wear a pair of shoes around for 12.5 hours in a day, I would be replacing a pair of shoes every 4 days. That is REALLY nuts.
Are you going by soccer miles or basketball miles?
Glueshoe wrote:
It seems that the modern shoe manufacturing giants have mastered the shady art of Planned obsolescence...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescenceI grew up in the 80ties...the greatest era for shoe design apparently.
Clearly stitched one piece soles are largely a thing of the past having been largely replaced by a series of glued together pieces destined and designed to fail long before the shoe should wear out if they had kept the superior designs of the 80ties.
Adidias were always my favorite make and my sambas and superstars lasted 5 or six years of hard wear without fail.
I bought 2 pair of Adidas ilation 2 from Academy Sports and wore them exclusively at work where I basically I am walking all day indoors... I didn't wear them for one minute of stressful athletic activity and both pairs failed in the exact same place in the exact same time.
I sent them back to Adidas as Academy Sports rebuffed me immediately even though two pairs of shoes had both failed in under 5 months total.
That's 10 weeks of wear of indoor walking exclusively per pair.
Adidas offered me a generous coupon to their website exclusively where I had a hard time finding my size.
After a week or so I finally was able to replace the two pairs of junk Adidas I bought previously but I've noticed all of them have glue together multi-part soles.
Unless you buy the Retro models that are exorbitantly expensive you cannot find a one-piece stitched on sole easily.
I fit best in a size 12 4E shoe.
I noticed New Balance seem to fit me best.
Having an unusual size foot is difficult enough but with the junk construction of the modern glue shoe is becoming more and more difficult to get a decent pair of shoes without spending a king's Ransom
It's 2019 for God's sake, our manufacturers are treating us like fools and selling us inferior products at exorbitant prices knowing the primary customer base is most likely spoiled privileged fickle youth who will throw out a perfectly fine pair of shoes because one portion became unglued.
I have a science degree and work in public safety and science so I understand chemical welding and modern manufacturing process is better than the average person.
I know it's perfectly possible to put together a chemically welded multi-piece sole that is reliable but I don't think that's what they're doing in the majority of manufacturing activity.
Back in the 80's , skinny men would jog, these skinny men were lonely , single and used paper based porno to wak off.
Police kept records of these skinny men.
I cant find the link to the research, but someone showed how much shoe-wear affected your landing and pronation.
It was pretty drastic... even at like 200 miles it was a very measurable and potentially damaging / injury inducing difference.
And sure there are shoes out there that will do 1000 miles, but everyone is trying to get things lighter and that means less durability. Nothing fun about running around in a robust shoe that weighs 400g...
Glueshoe wrote:
Do you buy your own shoes?
Or is this a mom's credit card thing?
I coach an MMA and a wrestling team for the past 20 years and most gear keeps getting better except shoes.
They are getting worse.
Hello there,
Start with your own feet, and look at what's already in your closet. Stand barefoot on a piece of paper or cardboard, and trace the shape of each foot. Now take your shoes, one by one, and place them on top of the drawing. If you're like most people, your "comfortable" shoes will closely match the outline of your own feet.
Identify the shoes that cause pain. If you're a woman, most of these will be shoes with narrow toes or high heels. Check to see if the toe of the shoe is narrower or shorter than your own toes.
https://indestructibleshoes.com/products/adio-blackI ran in shoes from the 80s and they were either heavy, clunky and stiff, or light, with zero support and the uppers were nylon crap. I think you are romanticizing the 80s shoes.
I gotta say: the midsoles that are coming out these days are anything but junk. Hyper and Floatride are lighter, springier, and more durable than anything else produced in the past... well, ever, possibly.
OP - Do you yell at folks to stay off your lawn?
Not a one of you is any faster or can run any farther because of your shoes. Not even in the 80's! You're all delusional suckers for clever marketing.
Run a race in your favorite shoes and then run a barefoot race or one wearing old folks walking shoes and get back to us.
Do you even run, brah?
"I gotta say: the midsoles that are coming out these days are anything but junk. Hyper and Floatride are lighter, springier, and more durable than anything else produced in the past... well, ever, possibly. "
The question is: Are midsoles appropriate for running? Do they spring back at the right time? I tried one of the newer, novel, midsole material shoes and it was "squishy" and comfortable but I could not run more than 20 feet with them!
Fatass. You've got a lot of nerve complaining about shoe durability. 280 in high school, you must be at least 350 now. Buy yourself a pair of extra wide boots. Just shut up.