4 finishing teams in the women’s 4 x 1500 Championship race. Sad.
4 finishing teams in the women’s 4 x 1500 Championship race. Sad.
This is not the same Ivy League as 20 years ago, or even 5 years ago. Ivy League schools are now making huge exceptions to accept talented athletes who are nowhere near the admissions standard that other students are held to.
A girl on my daughters team last year got rejected by Colby College, a D3 team and a decent school academically. But the track coaches at Penn were able to get her into Penn. That's essentially an athletic scholarship because with her acceptance she is getting 60k of financial aid based on need per year.
So congrats to Penn for winning - but don't for a second think they only have geniuses on their team who are all paying full tuition.
not the same ivy league wrote:
This is not the same Ivy League as 20 years ago, or even 5 years ago. Ivy League schools are now making huge exceptions to accept talented athletes who are nowhere near the admissions standard that other students are held to.
A girl on my daughters team last year got rejected by Colby College, a D3 team and a decent school academically. But the track coaches at Penn were able to get her into Penn. That's essentially an athletic scholarship because with her acceptance she is getting 60k of financial aid based on need per year.
So congrats to Penn for winning - but don't for a second think they only have geniuses on their team who are all paying full tuition.
Rojo, when you were coaching at Cornell did athletics have any influence on admissions?
Akins busted out a 2:02.3 anchor in the4x8.
No... what you don't understand is that when coaches at schools such as the one you named, come across a student athlete like your daughter, whom I assumed received good grades and a decent ACT or SAT score, they don't use an athletic roster spot on her. In other words, they don't use their athletic admissions assistance on her bc they are hoping that she will be accepted on her own-- without the assistance of the athletic department (due to her high academic profile). When your daughter considered Penn, I'm sure she, like at Colby, was not able to be accepted on her own- without their athletic admissions assistance. So, Penn may have taken a risk on her. If you consider your daughter to not be one of the "geniuses," then Penn probably had to be sure to accept a "genius" after or before your daughter to level out the academic average for their squad.
It's still hard to be admitted in to the Ivy League schools and the top private and public schools in the country. Another factor is, there are WAY more highly talented athletes in the US than ever before.
Also, it is public knowledge that the entire Penn DMR are Academic All Americans... at an Ivy League school. That must be doing alright in the classroom and competing at an elite level.