Adidas Boston 7 vs NB Beacon

Hi,

There are people doing 300 miles/500 kmh in the beacon and they are fine. They last pretty good for their price, I got two pairs with 40% off.

Cheers

Steve

I'm not the one who confuses solipsism for omniscience. So I'm good, thanks.

theJeff wrote:

PPS - please point out something in my initial post that is objectively false

"The reason the Boston 7 is on clearance is because it is bad or at least worse than the Beacon."

This is objectively false. The reason the old colors are on sale is because they released a new color, which New Balance also did with the Beacon. I've already pointed that out to you.

heya'll

I find the bostons to be quite narrow, which is good for me - love those shoes. every version.

Are the beacons narrow also? I usually can't wear NBs because they are just too wide for me.

I don't think so. I wear a 10.5 in Bostons and 10 in Beacons. However, the women's version comes in B and D widths and have the exact same Black color, so you could order in a narrow version if you want to be creative.

(unless you're already a women, in which case...i've got no suggestions)

are es gee wrote:

theJeff wrote:

PPS - please point out something in my initial post that is objectively false

"The reason the Boston 7 is on clearance is because it is bad or at least worse than the Beacon."

This is objectively false. The reason the old colors are on sale is because they released a new color, which New Balance also did with the Beacon. I've already pointed that out to you.

Except I never said that. Why did you use quotes there? That is very misleading to our viewers.

Here is what I said:

Beacon is lighter with more cushion (in the forefoot, anyway).

There is a reason the Boston 7s are already on clearance. Beacons by a mile.

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The first paragraph is objectively true.

I stand by my second statement as well. Putting every existing color on clearance and releasing a single solid black color isn’t what a company does with a well-performing shoe. (To be pedantic, even if you disagree with that line of logic, there is still nothing wrong with my second statement taken at face value, although that isn’t my argument.)

theJeff wrote:

There is a reason the Boston 7s are already on clearance. Beacons by a mile.

Putting every existing color on clearance and releasing a single solid black color isn’t what a company does with a well-performing shoe. (To be pedantic, even if you disagree with that line of logic, there is still nothing wrong with my second statement taken at face value, although that isn’t my argument.)

This is laughable, at best. Have you never worked in running retail? You have precious little knowledge of the industry/market and companies involved. Just stick to parroting shoe review bloggers/vloggers regarding shoes that feel great on your fat, slow feet.

"Beacon is lighter with more cushion (in the forefoot, anyway). "

This statement is generally true so I'll give you that I guess, but that doesn't automatically indicate that one is better than the other. This statement is also not a paragraph just because you put a break after it.

"There is a reason the Boston 7s are already on clearance."

This statement is at the very least misleading. So it is not, as you requested, "objectively true." The Boston 7 is not wholesale on clearance. 2 colors of the Boston 7 are on sale, while 2 new colors were released:

https://www.adidas.com/us/adizero-boston-7-shoes/B37380.html

I can make literally the same statement about the Beacon. The blue color went on clearance when the white version was released. 2 of the women's Beacon colors are on sale. Further, the Boston 7 was released 10.5 months ago (before the Boston marathon), several months before the Beacon was released (summer sometime). "already" on sale for a shoe that's nearly a year old isn't surprising. Call me when we get to July and the Beacons are still commanding full price across the board (a fact that already isn't the case as mentioned above).

"Beacons by a mile."

A 100% subjective statement. By it's very nature it is not objectively true. You can say you like the Beacons more and I suppose that is a true statement, but even if you claim there is a non-sequitur from the statement before it to claim that you weren't saying what I paraphrased in quotes in my previous post, it is still not an objective truth.

Evan Jogger wrote:

I'm not the one who confuses solipsism for omniscience. So I'm good, thanks.

Thanks for demonstrating the pitfalls of Word of the Day apps.

ProRunnerAZ wrote:

theJeff wrote:

There is a reason the Boston 7s are already on clearance. Beacons by a mile.

Putting every existing color on clearance and releasing a single solid black color isn’t what a company does with a well-performing shoe. (To be pedantic, even if you disagree with that line of logic, there is still nothing wrong with my second statement taken at face value, although that isn’t my argument.)

This is laughable, at best. Have you never worked in running retail? You have precious little knowledge of the industry/market and companies involved. Just stick to parroting shoe review bloggers/vloggers regarding shoes that feel great on your fat, slow feet.

Actually, I have. And I know that releasing 3 new colors indicates the company’s belief in a product, while the discontinuation of 3 colors and replacement with one indicates loss-cutting.

My thoughts and reviews are my own, you skinny shill.

But I forgive you.

“Beacons by a mile."

A 100% subjective statement. By it's very nature it is not objectively true.

Why do you insist on twisting people’s words? I said that nothing I said was objectively false, not that everything I said was objectively true. Of COURSE I included my opinion as well.

theJeff wrote:

Evan Jogger wrote:

I'm not the one who confuses solipsism for omniscience. So I'm good, thanks.

Thanks for demonstrating the pitfalls of Word of the Day apps.

You're welcome, glad you could find some benefit here.

theJeff wrote:

“Beacons by a mile."

A 100% subjective statement. By it's very nature it is not objectively true.

Why do you insist on twisting people’s words? I said that nothing I said was objectively false, not that everything I said was objectively true. Of COURSE I included my opinion as well.

Don't go back to Runner's World forums mad...

theJeff wrote:

ProRunnerAZ wrote:

This is laughable, at best. Have you never worked in running retail? You have precious little knowledge of the industry/market and companies involved. Just stick to parroting shoe review bloggers/vloggers regarding shoes that feel great on your fat, slow feet.

Actually, I have. And I know that releasing 3 new colors indicates the company’s belief in a product, while the discontinuation of 3 colors and replacement with one indicates loss-cutting.

My thoughts and reviews are my own, you skinny shill.

But I forgive you.

Can you count?

Beacons dropped Blue and made White.

Bostons dropped black/orange and navy blue and made light blue and black/white. it's all one to one stuff.

Where's the add 3 new colors and drop 3 colors for 1?

are es gee wrote:

theJeff wrote:

Actually, I have. And I know that releasing 3 new colors indicates the company’s belief in a product, while the discontinuation of 3 colors and replacement with one indicates loss-cutting.

My thoughts and reviews are my own, you skinny shill.

But I forgive you.

Can you count?

Beacons dropped Blue and made White.

Bostons dropped black/orange and navy blue and made light blue and black/white. it's all one to one stuff.

Where's the add 3 new colors and drop 3 colors for 1?

Drop 3, add 1: I searched RW for “Boston 7” If in fact they dropped 3 and added 2, it would still lead me to believe they were cost-cutting, although not as much.

The Drop 1 Add 3 was hypothetical; just giving the opposite example of the Boston situation.

Fwiw, NB released a new color of the Beacon even with the Beacon 2 on the horizon. Take that for what it’s worth.

ProRunnerAZ wrote:

theJeff wrote:

“Beacons by a mile."

A 100% subjective statement. By it's very nature it is not objectively true.

Why do you insist on twisting people’s words? I said that nothing I said was objectively false, not that everything I said was objectively true. Of COURSE I included my opinion as well.

Don't go back to Runner's World forums mad...

I forgive you for that, too.

theJeff wrote:

the discontinuation of 3 colors and replacement with one indicates loss-cutting.

With TWO! You don't even know how to gauge the available market accurately! Additionally, anyone who knows the basics knows Adidas will release a Boston-specific third colorway leading into the Boston Marathon. You don't like the shoes because they don't fit fat feet, this bias leads you to take a notably selective view.

Your input here is not appreciated, nor is it warranted.

theJeff wrote:

Drop 3, add 1: I searched RW for “Boston 7” If in fact they dropped 3 and added 2, it would still lead me to believe they were cost-cutting, although not as much.

The Drop 1 Add 3 was hypothetical; just giving the opposite example of the Boston situation.

Fwiw, NB released a new color of the Beacon even with the Beacon 2 on the horizon. Take that for what it’s worth.

Quick tips: Running Warehouse doesn't sell every shoe adidas makes, and you still don't know how to count. Even going to RW and searcing for Boston 7, they only dropped 2 colors there (and adidas added two colors as shown in the link I shared from adidas's website).

Dropping 1 and adding 3 is a weird time to provide a hypothetical when we have an actual. Beacon dropped 1 and added 1. Or on the women's side: dropped 2 and added 2...hey! just like the Boston! (Discountinued: orange and blue, released: pink and teal)

Actually....I just looked at Road Runner Sports. They actually have a THIRD new Boston 7 color (white). So now we're at 2 discontinued and 3 new colors for the Boston 7 on the men's side. Yeah...they're definitely abandoning the product.

BOHICA wrote:

theJeff wrote:

the discontinuation of 3 colors and replacement with one indicates loss-cutting.

With TWO! You don't even know how to gauge the available market accurately! Additionally, anyone who knows the basics knows Adidas will release a Boston-specific third colorway leading into the Boston Marathon. You don't like the shoes because they don't fit fat feet, this bias leads you to take a notably selective view.

Your input here is not appreciated, nor is it warranted.

Actually, I don’t like them because they are over-cushioned in the heel and undercushioned in the forefoot - for my taste - they are heavy for the amount of cushion you get, and they are really expensive. I have never once cited size as a detractor on this thread (that I am aware of).

The only mistake I made was assuming RW stocked every color of the Boston, which may lessen my argument, but doesn’t invalidate it.

You don’t have to agree with my interpretation. All the best.