It’s official: Shelby Houlihan won’t be running World Cross

Confirmed. BU last chance meet will feature a 5k of bowerman only women going after the 5k standard.

Democrats lose again wrote:

Typical unpatriotic move by a democrat piece of trash.

If you all see posts like this please report them. They can be auto deleted without even a moderator review if enough people report them.

Poster banned.

I blame USATF! The United States of America Take our Funds should make it worth it to the runners to wear the Red, White, & Blue. They have sucked the money, life , and fun out of running in the USA. They might as well call USATF the “NFL” for “No Funds League”, no funds for runners that is. The honor of the wearing ?? should enough, but I understand it’s a business. Heck I’d pay to wear a USA singlet in a International meet. However, runners need to capitalize a little on their running abilities, not the old farts in Indianapolis. They should crowbar the Nike coffers and spread some of the Nike windfall to the runners. USATF rant over. I love Shelby and this is directed at USATF not her.

I love Shelby, but this is so frustrating. She's easily the most exciting mid distance American runner male or female right now.

So by all this logic for people not running it, why should Courtney run it? Should we not also expect her to drop out any moment?

Let's be real. They know it's a prestigious event. That's why they're dodging it. They get paid to appear on a podium. They know they won't at world cross.

We should complain to the shoe sponsors. If they made their contracts incentivize world cross more, then you'd see them there. Have Nike put a lot of money into a team placement at world cross and I bet that whole team would podium the following year.

Unsure why that poster would be banned but pornography and cursing are allowed. How about drug accusations? Those things all seem much worse and they make me uncomfortable and cause me to recommend young people not use the site.

rojo wrote:

wejo wrote:

Bowerman Track Club coach Pascal Dobert confirmed the news.

As a fan it pissed me off but rationally I understand it.

What do you understand about it? I DON"T UNDERSTAND IT. Worlds are in October. What the hell does she need to be doing now?

Instead, I'll wait for the latest time trial by some US pro at some meet no one has ever heard of. I've been hearing there might be a 5000 the week of USAs. If that happens, anyone who does that meet is going to get ripped by me.

The sport as a fan is just so boring. No one ever goes outside their comfort zone.

Gosh, this pisses me off as a fan.

When we do our GOAT debates, Bekele is unbeatable in my mind as he excelled in xc, on the roads and track. Farah/Geb couldn't hack XC.

Yup. Worlds are so freaking far away it literally does not make sense to bail on XC.

food stamp henny wrote:

I will gladly take those in bold.

Same here.

Not nice but sane wrote:

Unsure why that poster would be banned but pornography and cursing are allowed. How about drug accusations? Those things all seem much worse and they make me uncomfortable and cause me to recommend young people not use the site.

I agree 100%. They all should be banned.

That's good to know that people can be banned by # of complaints, without a moderator being involved.

In the post-race interview, Houlihan said she wanted to race at World XC, but it was her coach's decision. So why is she getting flack?

Shelby is like the female Steve Ovett.Incredible range, tough-minded with a deadly kick. He was quite good at XC as well. How many times did HE do World XC?

Uh huh....

Shoebacca wrote:

So by all this logic for people not running it, why should Courtney run it? Should we not also expect her to drop out any moment?

Let's be real. They know it's a prestigious event. That's why they're dodging it. They get paid to appear on a podium. They know they won't at world cross.

We should complain to the shoe sponsors. If they made their contracts incentivize world cross more, then you'd see them there. Have Nike put a lot of money into a team placement at world cross and I bet that whole team would podium the following year.

I think Shoebacca hit the nail on the head. I do believe that the decision is made by sponsors (and Jerry is their handsomely paid mouthpiece). I mean, she is an exciting and possibly even still up-and-coming runner. The Swoosh are certainly going to see to it that she doesn't get 14th place in some race. That the race IS super deep and loaded is exactly why all the big names (where has Rupp been the last 5 WXC cycles?) SHOULD do it! Should according to fans, anyway!

FFS, why cant people run XC races in XC season?

Maybe then people would participate. March 30th???

qs wrote:

In the post-race interview, Houlihan said she wanted to race at World XC, but it was her coach's decision. So why is she getting flack?

Doesn't matter whose decision it was, if fans are frustrated they should make it known. We don't want to watch them only run glorified workouts at college meets

Wow, huge news, way to be right on top of all the latest developments!

Shoebacca wrote:

If they made their contracts incentivize world cross more, then you'd see them there.

Why should they do that, what's in it for Nike?

Tuliamuk is running a spring marathon...tba

food stamp henny wrote:

Jonathan Gault wrote:

Amy Cragg won't be taking her spot either, per source. Which means that your team right now is as follows:

Marielle Hall, Courtney Frerichs, Karissa Schweizer, Stephanie Bruce, Anne-Marie Blaney, Sarah Pagano

1 275 Shelby Houlihan 25 Portland OR NIKE Bowerman Track Club 32:47 NOT RUNNING

2 278 Molly Huddle 34 Providence RI Saucony 32:56 NOT RUNNING

3 252 Marielle Hall 27 Portland OR NIKE Bowerman Track Club 32:57

4 482 Aliphine Tuliamuk 29 Flagstaff AZ HOKA ONE ONE NAZ Elite 33:04 NOT RUNNING

5 178 Amy Cragg 35 Portland OR NIKE Bowerman Track Club 33:18 NOT RUNNING

6 226 Courtney Frerichs 26 Portland OR NIKE Bowerman Track Club 33:25

7 429 Karissa Schweizer 22 Portland OR NIKE Bowerman Track Club 33:29

8 149 Stephanie Bruce 35 Flagstaff AZ HOKA ONE ONE NAZ Elite 33:30

9 132 Anne-Marie Blaney 25 Rochester Hills MI Hansons-Brooks DP 33:35

10 382 Sarah Pagano 27 Ringwood NJ 33:44

I will gladly take those in bold. The others are quitters. Don't honor commitments and are not loyal to their country.

running through a cow pasture does not show loyalty .

Not nice but sane wrote:

Unsure why that poster would be banned but pornography and cursing are allowed. How about drug accusations? Those things all seem much worse and they make me uncomfortable and cause me to recommend young people not use the site.

Because it's SPAM?