i think going overdistance is a good idea. to make it easier, find a 50k trail race on a fairly easy course.
btw, i'll add kempainen to the list of runners who did overdistance runs. actually, as i type that i'm not sure if he went OVER 26 or just went up to 26 miles in training. either way, most people max out at 20-22 miles for their long run.
Gerry Lindgren ran 30 and 40 mile "adventure runs" even in High School.
I am surprised that nobody on this board has suggested checking out the exhaustion levels on her and her "training partner". Are you sure they are out running for the 3 and a half hours?
No way anyone is doing a speed/track workout a day after a 30 mile run.
Thanks for all the input. She has been making the argument to "experiment" with different training methods for some time. It just seems a bit drastic.
We ran together this morning and honestly with the exception of a little irritability (which is the norm on most morning runs) she seemed fine.
The track work is tomorrow, so we'll see how she recovers for that.
I've done 30+ mile runs for marathon training, and yes it is a good thing, however you need to balance long distance running with race-pace running and lactate-threshold running in order to improve your marathon time.
If she does 2 runs of 45km (28 miles) before the marathon, with the last one being about 6 weeks before the marathon, I'd say that's good, anything more is less-than-ideal.
I once did a 31 miler 2 weeks before the first marathon that I ran under 2:30 (2:27:12 in Cleveland, 1990) but I think that I could've run much better in that race if I would have done this run 6 weeks before the marathon and then focused on race-pace running.
Jason Mayeroff
(2:18 personal best)
Runs of that distance are an accepted part of the training programs of ultra runners and doesn't seem to have a detrimental effect on their performance. As long as your wife is able to recover sufficiently, then it probably won't hurt her performance and may even prove benefitial.
She ought to give a 50k race a shot. Sounds like she could run 3:50 ish no problem.
scott douglas recently reported on tegla lourope doing a 50k training run
30 is good, 40 maybe a tad excessive (is she thinking about Ultras?) but if she can do it then she has more stones than most guys I know, myself included.
if shes not too tired to get her ass up in the air for some doggy lovin, a few times a week, then its all good.
Sorry capt cupcake you beat me to it.
thats solid, if she can stay healthy, i wish i could do that
Definitely worth it to run that far.
Your wife is crazy. Please get her to a House of Scientology ASAP.
Also, what is her recovery time from a run of this distance? It would seem to me that doing 40-45% of your weekly mileage in one run wouldn't be the smartest thing to do. But, what do I know?
Your wife is starting to exhibit tendencies of an eating disorder. 30+ mile runs for a 3:00 marathoner is ridiculous. Keep an eye on her, she's going over to the dark side.
Tommy,
You have the best name of all time, hahahahahahahahaha
BDG wrote:
[quote]run long wrote:
Maybe she'll find out that doing these 30M+ runs is NOT a dumb idea for HER. Everybody has different bodies, different talents, and different desires. There is no ONE RIGHT ANSWER that goes for everyone.
BDG
Thanks for pointing out the obvious.
Though everyone (of course) has different bodies, the differences are not all that great. There are trends in running that we all see. Too much, too fast, leads to over use injuries. Running hard every single day without a break leads to burnout and stale performances. Etc. etc.
Maybe if she does 100 mile runs it will work for her too. That doesn't make it a very smart thing to try. Odds are with me, bucko.
let her go...
and then when she gets home try and have sex with her...
and when she says that shes too tired go, "THATS JUST FUCKING GREAT."
then go out and have sex with a hooker, kick her ass and then shave her head...
so the next time that i see a hooker with a black eye and a shaved head i can say to my friends, "hey, i know the guy who did that. his wife runs 30 mile long runs once a month."
trust me on this one
I run up to 30 mile runs, but not over. But if I were running 75 mpw, I wouldn't be running 30 mile runs. Does she run like 4 days per week? No thank you to the speed work the day after either.
Well after a recovery day yesterday (easy 5), she hit the track today. She did 2*1200/2*800/2*400 all at 5K pace with two minute recovery in between.
I was doubtful but she recovered fine from the 30 two days ago and she hit all her splits without any trouble. She looked very strong.