Who you got in Chicago: Farah or Rupp?

Scorpion_runner wrote:

I was looking forward to this race due to Hasay and Cragg running, but since they have both withdrawn from the race, I'm no longer excited about it.

This is now a Nike Promotional race, where the attention is going to be on 2 nike athletes. That does not make for a pure race.

I'm seriously thinking about skipping it, and just focus on my long run in the morning.

Hasay and Cragg are Nike athletes too, you absolute dolt.

Farah will race against Rupp. lots of ego in that lad.

Rupp will race against his body and his coach's demands.

if Rupp is unhurt and had an injury free training cycle, he will beat farah. any hitch in that and farah beats rupp.

i give the mental edge to farah and the physical edge (barring injury, or training hiccups) to rupp.

regardless, will be interesting. i just hope they are both with the leaders of the race so we can watch it play out!!

Gotta go with Farah. Rupp has been quiet since Prague and didn't look good in his tune-up race. Mo crushed a 59 half after getting some good experience in London, going out super fast on that warm day. He can run faster than his PB.

I think one of the NN guys takes it though. Chicago runs similar enough to Dubai. If someone can run 2:04 I think they beat both Mo and Galen. I like Geremew & Legese. Abel Kirui is a fan favorite as well & had a strong 2nd place showing last year. Maybe he'll change up his tactics.

Dark horse options -- maybe Sambu figures out how to turn his strong 10k and shorter distance road racing pedigree into a strong showing. Parker Stinson 2nd American in 2:09-high. He does what Luke P. did a few years back and gets 5th or so. Top American if Rupp is a DNS or DNF.

In around 20 tries Rupp has beaten Farah once I believe. Neither will win but Farah will beat Rupp.

what a laugh wrote:

Clipse187 wrote:

I'm struggling to understand how anyone can think Rupp is favourite.

Once you factor in Farah's PB was set in very hot conditions in London this year (21° and sunny by 10am) then all factors point to sir Mo finishing out of Rupp's sight.

Again with the extreme heat nonsense. Elites in 2018 London ran from 18 at the start to 21c at the finish. Rupp ran his PB in 18c. He's never run in optimal conditions. Give it a rest.

Measured 27C at pavement in Southwark to confirm hottest London Marathon at 12:30pm. 24 mins after Mo finished.

Farah will sit on Rupp. Rupp will try desperately to push the pace and get away. Farah will kick late in the race FTW. I hope I’m wrong. I’m rooting for Rupp.

Barabbas wrote:

Farah will sit on Rupp. Rupp will try desperately to push the pace and get away. Farah will kick late in the race FTW. I hope I’m wrong. I’m rooting for Rupp.

Part of me says you have it exactly right.

Part of me says that the Marathon is not the 10k (or 5k). What Rupp has going for him is a good career already in UNPACED marathons, which means he knows how to race it and how to attack when he needs to attack. Both of Mo's runs were at paced London races, so clearly marathon experience is easily in favor of Rupp.

At the end of the day though, I think Farah wins it. His 206 at London was after all produced with a WR quality first half and he gamely hung on while the race went away from him in rather warm conditions. No doubt he was worth sub 205 that day, and I think Rupp may top out around 2:05:30, just good enough for the AR.

Farah because he's had a great year: 2:06 off heat and suicidal splits in London, and recently a 59:2x half. I don't think superior track speed really matters, I just think Farah is in better shape. Geoffrey Kirui should also be a factor.

Floyd Pink wrote:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BoZVEUNgvmB/?taken-by=oregonproject

After I posted earlier, NOP put up this video on FB and Instagram. Last workout for Rupp, they say, and no indication that it's not full speed ahead.

I wonder whether Rupp ever gets to head out for a quiet run without Salazar along to nag.

If it wasn’t for that Achilles injury I would of said Galen wins hands down. But I’m not sure how much it set him back. But who knows perhaps he got a bit more rest than Mo during that time and is ready to go. I’m tossed at this point. Seems to me Salazar and Galen might be holding back a bit. Galen is very good in tactical marathons. Even though this is paced I’m sure the race will be full of surprises. Why do I keep thinking both won’t win?

Go Galen!

Oh Please wrote:

At the end of the day though, I think Farah wins it. His 206 at London was after all produced with a WR quality first half and he gamely hung on while the race went away from him in rather warm conditions. No doubt he was worth sub 205 that day, and I think Rupp may top out around 2:05:30, just good enough for the AR.

I have no idea how some people can rationalize that Rupp may top out at 2:05:30 when he just ran 2:06 flat on a slower than Chicago/London/Berlin Prague course, in warm conditions, and piss poor pacing. As ridiculous as saying Farah will only top out around 2:06 flat.

Farah because he proved he’s not scared to go berserker mode in the marathon and then finish despite a suicidal pace. I am not a Rupp hater - I want the guy to succeed as much as any fan, but he has too many DNFs and bad finishes when things don’t play into his hand for me to pick him over a guy that’s proven himself a competitor at many distances with people gunning for him.

That said, as a guy pulling for Americans, I hope Rupp proves me wrong.

Qwertine wrote:

Scorpion_runner wrote:

I was looking forward to this race due to Hasay and Cragg running, but since they have both withdrawn from the race, I'm no longer excited about it.

This is now a Nike Promotional race, where the attention is going to be on 2 nike athletes. That does not make for a pure race.

I'm seriously thinking about skipping it, and just focus on my long run in the morning.

Hasay and Cragg are Nike athletes too, you absolute dolt.

You seem to dig far too deep with your posts. This is a marathon race. There are athletes running from many different backgrounds, countries and shoe sponsors.

If Rupp and Farah weren't both running Chicago , you'd say that they are purposely ducking each other. Hasay and Cragg were both injured, it happens and they both run for Nike.

If you don't want to watch because you're no longer excited about it (which you're clearly lying), then don't. I'm pretty sure they'll still have tv coverage with or without you.

Some people...geez.

Runnergrl wrote:

If it wasn’t for that Achilles injury I would of said Galen wins hands down. But I’m not sure how much it set him back. But who knows perhaps he got a bit more rest than Mo during that time and is ready to go. I’m tossed at this point. Seems to me Salazar and Galen might be holding back a bit. Galen is very good in tactical marathons. Even though this is paced I’m sure the race will be full of surprises. Why do I keep thinking both won’t win?

Go Galen!

Injury? It's a very small setback from awhile back. If he wasn't fully prepared, he wouldn't be on the starting line. Salazar and Galen holding back? What?

Galen, very good tactically at running marathons? He simply waits and finishes strong when he knows he can take it all the way to the finish line. Very "average" tactics by a very capable runner who has shown he can see it thru to the finish line.

You've set yourself up to look right either way "Why do I keep thinking they both won't win?", then "Go Galen!".

pablo cruise wrote:

Floyd Pink wrote:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BoZVEUNgvmB/?taken-by=oregonproject

After I posted earlier, NOP put up this video on FB and Instagram. Last workout for Rupp, they say, and no indication that it's not full speed ahead.

I wonder whether Rupp ever gets to head out for a quiet run without Salazar along to nag.

Yes he does. It was a "workout" from guess when? Notice the brown leaves on the track?

their times at all levels are very comparable. mo is just a little faster in the last lap of a 5k and 10k. that wins every time. whoever can handle the last 3k better will win. so far it rupp has finished extremely strong in all of his marathons. he was third in olympics put pulled away from world class runners. he put almost a minute on a 2:04 guy in the last 2k in prague. prague was supposed to be paced but the pacers fell of an mid point. i don't know if mo can finish like that, probably. racing is different today. all of those guys that run 2:04 pace with a 28 minute 10k have no chance against rupp or mo given they are healthy. i pick rupp but would not put money on it.

Epo over testosterone and gray supplements every time, even for properly-trained athletes.

bradley strider wrote:

Farah will race against Rupp. lots of ego in that lad.

Rupp will race against his body and his coach's demands.

if Rupp is unhurt and had an injury free training cycle, he will beat farah. any hitch in that and farah beats rupp.

i give the mental edge to farah and the physical edge (barring injury, or training hiccups) to rupp.

regardless, will be interesting. i just hope they are both with the leaders of the race so we can watch it play out!!

Ego? He’s a professional and competitive athlete in a professional and comeptive running event. You Moran.

LetsRun.com wrote:

The 2018 Chicago Marathon is on Sunday.

There are plenty of fast guys in the field. There's 2018 Dubai champ/CR holder Mosinet Geremew, 2017 Boston/World champ Geoffrey Kirui, 2018 Tokyo champ Dickson Chumba, and several more.

But this thread isn't about them. This is about Mo Farah vs. Galen Rupp. Former training partners under Alberto Salazar, Mo left NOP at the end of 2017. Their marathon PRs are 14 seconds apart (2:06:07 for Rupp, 2:06:21 for Farah). They haven't raced since the 2016 Olympics and have never raced in the marathon. And Rupp has only beaten Farah once in 22 head-to-head matchups, and that was in an indoor mile in which Farah fell during the race.

Who finishes higher, and why?

Farah. After hitting the half way point in a WR split then hold onto 3rd place and a British record in blazing hot conditions I think he should be a definite favorite. Plus he is a grafter and very rarely has a bad day.