Former UCLA Star Steve Ortiz and 2:13 Marathoner Arrested

yt67 wrote:

You're linking to a study that acknowledges the fact that male children are molested 33% of the time while stating that the males who molest them aren't *really* gay.

Your math not so good

Smokestack wrote:

yt67 wrote:

You're linking to a study that acknowledges the fact that male children are molested 33% of the time while stating that the males who molest them aren't *really* gay.

Your math not so good

^This.

this thread is useless without photographs wrote:

I'd have to see picks of the kid to know how I feel about this.

There's some weird sheet going on in that state of Cali.

Best thing: earhquake, tsunami, wildfires, destroy the whole state and it falls in the ocean.

this thread is useless without photographs wrote:

I'd have to see picks of the kid to know how I feel about this.

This guy has issues, and needs to be removed from society.

California is the 5th largest economy in the world, contributing to the welfare states because the Federal government receives more per dollar in tax revenue than it kicks out. This is to subsidize you non-Californian freeloaders. If California is gone, the country would go into a downward spiral rather quickly. So my feeble-minded friend, don't bite the hand that feeds you.

CallMeDoctor wrote:

There's some weird sheet going on in that state of Cali.

Best thing: earhquake, tsunami, wildfires, destroy the whole state and it falls in the ocean.

douglas burke wrote:

He ran 28:21 in the 10000 at UCLA, Only Meb ran faster for the UCLA Bruins, serious charges,

http://abc7.com/ie-swim-track-coach-arrested-for-alleged-sex-with-15-year-old-boy/3461254/

Looks like a crack addict Mark Cuban

Your Local NAMBLA Rep wrote:

Hard to believe it's 2018 and there are still people against a perfectly natural and extremely common desire that's been hated upon for millennia. And the guy was 15, which is WAY older than most countries historically.

Abuser Alert ! wrote:

this thread is useless without photographs wrote:

I'd have to see picks of the kid to know how I feel about this.

This guy has issues, and needs to be removed from society.

I meant pics, not picks. Jeez, sorry grammar Nazi.

I WAS HIS TEAM MATE AT UCLA. HE WAS A BIT OF A WEIRDO. VERY LIMITED SOCIAL SKILLS. HE TRIED SO VERY HARD TO FIT IN THE SOCIAL SCENE. HE WAS ARROGANT AND SELF-CENTERED. YOU COULD WALK DIRECTLY PAST HIM ON CAMPUS, AND SAY HELLO, AND HE WOULDN'T ACKNOWLEDGE YOU. HE WAS ONLY NICE TO THOSE WHO RAN FASTER THAN HE DID. HE NEVER HAD A GIRLFRIEND. ALSO, HE GOT IN TROUBLE IN THE 90'S FOR PROVIDING A MINOR WITH ALCOHOL. AS MUCH AS I DISLIKED HIM, I WOULDN'T WISH UPON ANYONE, WHAT IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN TO HIM. HIS LIFE IS OVER. HE IS ABOUT TO LOOSE EVERYTHING. AGAIN, AS MUCH AS I DISLIKED HIM, I WILL ALSO PRAY FOR HIM.

CA does not have tsunamis and we’ve never once had an earhquake.

He hasn't been found guilty of any crime yet.

For those of who knew Steve, I appreciate and value your insight. Steve has coached my son for the past 3 years, that was until he was arrested. The news has devastated my son. ? My son really looked up to Steve, as did many of the other kids. Friday, when the news broke: many students teared up. We are still processing and trying to make sense of the situation. My greatest concern right now is that my son does not quit cross country and track. Again, thanks for any insight.

Sad Mom wrote:

For those of who knew Steve, I appreciate and value your insight. Steve has coached my son for the past 3 years, that was until he was arrested. The news has devastated my son. ? My son really looked up to Steve, as did many of the other kids. Friday, when the news broke: many students teared up. We are still processing and trying to make sense of the situation. My greatest concern right now is that my son does not quit cross country and track. Again, thanks for any insight.

i knew steve for a short time, but remain best friends with his younger brother, my teammate/roommate at ucla. steve stayed with us while he was finishing his degree. the post above so far is the only one i'll respond to, not that i have the insight you may be looking for.

for what it's worth: i have a pretty negative opinion of steve in general that goes back only to the short time he stayed with us; despite that, this shocked me, but i can only speak for myself. don't trust what random anonymous people on these boards say (including me, but my profile is actually pretty public)--if your son likes running, he should continue. the coach should not define his enthusiasm for the sport, no matter how much the coach may influence it.

as for steve, i suspect the truth--good or bad--will win out. they've got hundreds of parents to interview, so my guess is if there is a pattern of criminal behavior, it'll be found out. with computers and cell phones, and the fact that people just aren't that smart or private with technology, if there are suspicious text messages/emails/snapchats/instagrams, they'll find them. and if they don't find them, well, here my negative opinion (mainly rooted in narcissism and selfishness) of steve may help: he ain't no criminal mastermind. so if they don't find a suspicious pattern, and if they don't find any suspicious evidence, then he's likely innocent of everything but poor judgment in driving a homeless minor alone ANYWHERE, though his reputation will probably never recover...

that's my story and i'm sticking to it,

cush

Very sad news. Steve has done a fantastic job revitalizing the xc/track program over at granite hills hs for the last couple years. Bummer for the kids there.

CallingYouDoctor wrote: CA does not have tsunamis and we’ve never once had an earthquake.

I have actually been in an earthquake in San Francisco, so I'm going to guess you're trolling.

cheers.

Sad Mom wrote:For those of who knew Steve, I appreciate and value your insight. Steve has coached my son for the past 3 years, that was until he was arrested. The news has devastated my son. ? My son really looked up to Steve, as did many of the other kids. Friday, when the news broke: many students teared up. We are still processing and trying to make sense of the situation. My greatest concern right now is that my son does not quit cross country and track. Again, thanks for any insight.

i think that i may have met steve at a truck stop near Reno, NV a couple years ago. i was in a stall doing my business when someone started pounding on the stall door claiming that all of the other stalls were being used. He begged me to let him share my toilet seat as he had an emergency. He said that his name was "Steve" and that he needed to get to some type of race for which he was late. I told him he was going to have to wait as I was freaked out. The guy abruptly left, which I figured meant that he took care of his business in the woods behind the rest stop. However, when I then finished my business in the stall and got up and washed my hands, I noticed that not one of the other stalls was occupied. What was that all about?

Maybe you just had an encounter at Pickadilly Circus

yet you didn't know it. By the way the Great Supreme

Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg is a proponent of

written pornography as expression.

If you're in Vermont, I hang out, literally, at exit 2, Brattleboro, on I-89,