How to speed train at high elevation with no flat roads or trails

NeoGeo wrote:

...sorry, got cut off.

Farmington, NM is

Youre looking at big towns my friend. Im in a small town. Im glad youre learning about Colorado in the process. Its a great place to live

A couple of other guesses: Lake City or Creede (although both are within about 4 hours of 5500, so 5 hours is probably an overstatement unless the OP lives at the end of some jeep road in a hermit house ala Ted Kaczynski).

joedirt wrote:

A couple of other guesses: Lake City or Creede (although both are within about 4 hours of 5500, so 5 hours is probably an overstatement unless the OP lives at the end of some jeep road in a hermit house ala Ted Kaczynski).

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Lake City is 'too close' to Junction to fit the riddle.

But Creede is a good possibility.

Still, 3 hours to the oxygen-rich environs of Farmington, NM.

East Africans deal with this every race. Ask them.

Only other guess would be up by Trappers Lake. Those are the only places I can think of that can get you that remote, as others like Meeker, Rangely, Dinosaur, Pagosa, Bayfield, Naturita, Telluride, Durango, Silverton, Taylor Park, Saguache, Tin Cup, Twin Lakes and others are within about 3-4 hours of either Pueblo, Denver, Fort Collins, Grand Junction or points south. I've pretty much been to every nook and cranny of the state for work, fishing, running or exploring. So short of being an extra hour up a 4 wheel drive road, that should have it covered. But safe to say it is probably further than one wants to drive for a training run.

Its called grade adjusted pace yeah you're not going to be as fast obviously but you can translate it to flat terrain. I believe Strava has this feature on its full desk top site.

Where I live I have a hill that is 50 feet short of a certified mountain and about 3/4 of a mile long. An 8 minute pace grades out around 7 its a good guide for your progress when running hills

joedirt wrote:

Only other guess would be up by Trappers Lake. Those are the only places I can think of that can get you that remote, as others like Meeker, Rangely, Dinosaur, Pagosa, Bayfield, Naturita, Telluride, Durango, Silverton, Taylor Park, Saguache, Tin Cup, Twin Lakes and others are within about 3-4 hours of either Pueblo, Denver, Fort Collins, Grand Junction or points south. I've pretty much been to every nook and cranny of the state for work, fishing, running or exploring. So short of being an extra hour up a 4 wheel drive road, that should have it covered. But safe to say it is probably further than one wants to drive for a training run.

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! GAP yeah i run some 4:30 gaps on 1000 foot per mile ascents....thanks dude

hsjbdj wrote:

East Africans deal with this every race. Ask them.

They train flat. Like 5000 feet of vert per 120 miles. I get about 20k-30k feet vert a week

soccer fields and golf courses - do loops

this isnt rocket science

you need a tempo too? find a railroad grade

Are you really in fruita? from google maps is looks flat as fxck.