Caleb Dressel 17.63 50y free!

Reptilians wrote:

Alright boys, let's take this discussion to LetsSwim.com. This is LetsRun.

I post there. Comments are out of control. I think there were 590+ for the morning prelims alone.

Extremely knowledgable group over there.

Dressel reached legend status in this meet last year. Projections for 6-8 golds in 2020 are somewhat commonplace. Tonight will merely take it to another level of expectation. Last year at the world championships in Budapest he won seven golds, including an unprecedented three in one night...two hours from first race to the third race.

Keep in mind that many of those 6-8 golds would be relays, including the newly added mixed relay.

Dressel is superior on turns, which really gives him an advantage in short course. He specializes in sprints -- the 50s and 100s --unlike Phelps who could extend to 200 and also the 400 individual medley.

Katie Ledecky messes with the 400 individual medley in college events but she doesn't do it internationally. She is strictly a freestyler there. Dressel has more versatility since he's awesome in both freestyle sprints and the butterfly, where he is a threat to break Phelps' legendary mark in the 100 butterfly, after barely missing it last summer.

Dressel also is great in the 200 IM. He would have won that NCAA championship tonight but skipped the race to focus on obliterating the record in the 50 free. That decision obviously paid off. Now Dressel needs to work on long course and carrying his speed over 200.

It's actually SwimSwam, not LetsSwim

Surpassed Phelps

A little testo, a little HGH... undetectable.

dkny64 wrote:

Unreal time. Coming into today, he held the record at 18.20. Proceeded to swim 18.11 in AM prelims, 17.81 leading off tonight's 200y free relay (counts for record purposes), 17.63 in final.

Can't wait to watch it. The women's NCAA's were also pretty impressive.

we'll see if his short course yard speed translates in long course meters..

until then, he's just another ncaa meat head

He won six golds last year's long course worlds meathead.

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That means he's already faster than every American swimmer ever in long course. I guess he still technically doesn't have the fastest relay split thanks to tech suits and Jason lezaks ridiculous performance (will this ever be eclipsed?). I mean a tech suit dragging a tech suit at sub-WR pace for the entire 100m perfectly, it's 10x better than having both rabbits and pacers, he just sat in Bernard's wave the entire way and then pulled ahead

Umm, he owns the 50 and 100m ARs long course freestyle already wrote:

That means he's already faster than every American swimmer ever in long course. I guess he still technically doesn't have the fastest relay split thanks to tech suits and Jason lezaks ridiculous performance (will this ever be eclipsed?). I mean a tech suit dragging a tech suit at sub-WR pace for the entire 100m perfectly, it's 10x better than having both rabbits and pacers, he just sat in Bernard's wave the entire way and then pulled ahead

It will be eclipsed, tech suit or not, by Dressel. just a matter of time. I actually still have one of the old tech suits that I used to race in, the major benefit is in the longer distances, not something as short as 50 to 100 M.

I can't imagine the scenario where a us coach wouldn't put dressel as the lead off in a given relay given his tremendous start advantage

I think the relay split is just never going to happen for him, not that anyone would care. I used to race to in college, back when a 21.n 50y was considered 'ok' aka 'well, we can keep hm as an alternate on the 4x100f'

Not necessarily right wrote:

I can't imagine the scenario where a us coach wouldn't put dressel as the lead off in a given relay given his tremendous start advantage

I think the relay split is just never going to happen for him, not that anyone would care. I used to race to in college, back when a 21.n 50y was considered 'ok' aka 'well, we can keep hm as an alternate on the 4x100f'

I can't either. hes just too good. that much of a lead after the lead off leg in a 200 FR demoralizes everyone. 21 and change when I was racing in college was considerably better than OK. Ahhhh how time flies.

For you non swimmers, swimming is a 1:4 ratio in effort compared to running. So swimming 100m is like a run around 400m track.

Going to UMN to watch tonight's session.

Was too tired to go last night!

BTW swim meets are far more entertaining to watch than track meets, even if it's just guys competing.

Final answer wrote:

So how fast is 17.63 for 50y? 5 MPH?

Can he actually swim faster than a slow runner can run? Like a 5 hour marathoner?

Forget comparing to a longer distance. He swam 5.8 mph for 50 yards, which is faster than a lot of people (Americans) can 'run' 50 yards. His 100 yd free time (40.87) is exactly 5.0 mph. I wonder how many people can't cover 100 yards on a track in 40 seconds.

Swam 17.30 anchor split in the 200 medley relay today.

Fastest 50 free split ever

https://swimswam.com/dressel-throws-down-17-3-anchor-split-in-200-medley-relay-prelims/

Final answer wrote:

So how fast is 17.63 for 50y? 5 MPH?

Can he actually swim faster than a slow runner can run? Like a 5 hour marathoner?

World record in the 10K long track speedskating is 12:36.30. Kenenisa Bekele's 5K running world record is 12:37.35.

12:36.30 for 10K is a much faster pace per 100 than Usain Bolt's world record.

flswimmer wrote:

we'll see if his short course yard speed translates in long course meters..

until then, he's just another ncaa meat head

See

for a nice summary of what his scy times suggest about his lcm potential.