RUTH JEBET EMBROILED IN DRUG SCANDAL!!!

You’re so full of it. Lest we forget, Rita Jeptoo and Jemima Sumgong are virtual outcasts in Kenya right now, so I must’ve missed the Kenyans who defended them. I’d let you know exactly what I feel about your post and people who think like you but, knowing this site, I’m not looking to get banned on the eve of marathon season.

How many American coaches were sent home for trying to take an athletes drug test in Rio? How many Kenyan coaches were? I agree there is a problem in America but for you to pretend there is not a huge problem in Kenya and Ethiopia is laughable. El Keniano you act like a clown with all your diversion and crap you sling pretending there is not a huge drug culture in Kenya. The only one that believes there is not a problem is you and the other people that support the problem.

Poverty leads to crime, dishonesty, insulation, and contempt for others. In track, poverty leads to cheating.

Previously-poor who runners who cheat are morally identical to previously-poor drug dealers who sell drugs and the previously-poor car thieves who steal cars. It's the same selfishness/disregard for others that makes kids cut in line, drivers run red lights, etc.

Until Kenyans ostracize cheaters (i.e. every runner associated with cheating coaches) instead of saying "look over there!", Americans and the world will rightfully assume a cheating culture within Kenyan athletics. When Kenyans don't discourage line-stepping, people step over lines.

El Keniano wrote:

Don't know the circumstances, who tested her and where she was caught.

There's never any evidence presented, just news releases in the press, but not ever anything to back up the claims.

The notable exception was Radcliffe who had blatantly failed several tests but her results were excused.

I think all the drug testing should be immediately down away with, and turn the focus to gender testing instead.

*done away with

My point Scorpion relates to the double standard when it comes to doping suspicion by association. For example In this instance Ruth Jebet looks to have failed a doping test. In the light of this the social media floodgates will open spouting that this failed test is the tip of the iceberg and is indicative of widespread doping throughout the higher echelons of East African Track athletes. Now say Rupp were to fail a doping test, - the poisonous net would only stretch as far as the NOP group, other distance athletes not associated with the Al Sal group wouldn’t come under any additional scrutiny.

Is this fair?

I also believe as a very general rule that athletes who commit to their countries track programmes in terms of attaining higher honours for National pride, are less likely to take short cuts than those who foresake this opportunity in favour of the financial rewards offered by road races and the half/marathon events. For example, I for one would be deeply shocked if Tirunesh Dibaba failed a test as she has always appeared committed to running for the glory of Ethiopia - The motivation for her success is derived from a burning desire to do her country proud. Imagine the national shame for her and her country if it ever came to light she doped! -Whereas I would be less surprised if Joyceline Jepkosgei failed a test due to her foregoing national honours in favour of running longer distances for personal glory and a larger pay check ( and I use her as an example only, I’m not casting aspersions on her integrity)

American African wrote:

Poverty leads to crime, dishonesty, insulation, and contempt for others. In track, poverty leads to cheating.

Previously-poor who runners who cheat are morally identical to previously-poor drug dealers who sell drugs and the previously-poor car thieves who steal cars. It's the same selfishness/disregard for others that makes kids cut in line, drivers run red lights, etc.

Until Kenyans ostracize cheaters (i.e. every runner associated with cheating coaches) instead of saying "look over there!", Americans and the world will rightfully assume a cheating culture within Kenyan athletics. When Kenyans don't discourage line-stepping, people step over lines.

I think it would be far better to make the sport 100% amateur again. Scratch all the records set in the non-amateur period. Then we would have more guys like Bannister again and the sport will become just so much better.

Obvious doper, throw the book at her.

You honestly think a 60-year-old coach with grey hair would try to pass for a 28-year-old athlete in their prime? Come on, man. You’re better than that.

Kenya had a problem in Rio. Corruption! Corrupt officials brought joyriders with them costing legitimate team members their spots in the Olympic village. Stop trying to make it what it wasn’t.

Not surprised wrote:

Obvious doper, throw the book at her.

I agree. Lifetime ban.

The incentives for east Africans to dope are HUGE: pride, cultural /event dominance and then there is the $$ factor. Sure $100K in the USA is a lot of money, but not enough to really change your life or create long run economic stability. $100K in east Africa can do that - buy livestock, or a ranch or a hotel. Huge incentive. Probably the same situation in Russia.

Jebet came out of nowhere during an Olympic year and made drastic improvements, simultaneously switching to the Bahraini flag. Yasemin Can, same story, red flags all over the place. FWIW I don't agree with the "Kenyan doping culture" posts at all, I think Celphine Chespol is the real deal and should be the WR holder already.

Left Said Fred wrote:

I believe she's coached by Khalid Boulami.

Well...that just says it all. Moroccan magic at work. ?

Kenyans equal lying Kenyans!....they lie about age, doping, resident, etc etc...just keep lying until it becomes true

Why would we be surprised that a Bahraini with terrible hurdling technique, and running extremely fast times would be suspicious? Last year she was very fast, running away from people with ease, then turns up at the WCs and is rubbish, then a week later she is invincible again.

Who is her coach?

Everyone's looking for an edge wrote:

Left Said Fred wrote:

I believe she's coached by Khalid Boulami.

Well...that just says it all. Moroccan magic at work. ?

Morocco and Kenya, the two most juiced nations on earth. Doping is part of their DNA.

El Keniano wrote:

Still unconfirmed, but not good. Already casting a pall over all Kenyans.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/mar/04/ruth-jebet-olympic-champion-drug-test-kenya-bahrain-steeplechase

Oh no!

I've just seen this. I've intentionally stayed away from any running news because I went for mass in the morning, then, came home to watch football the entire day. I've just finished watching the indoors ............and now this!

Wow!

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Why would we be surprised that a Bahraini with terrible hurdling technique, and running extremely fast times would be suspicious? Last year she was very fast, running away from people with ease, then turns up at the WCs and is rubbish, then a week later she is invincible again.

Who is her coach?

You read can?

You read maybe can posts before.

Dopey idiot....

El Keniano wrote:

I too caught the hint that Kenyan testers could’ve targeted Jebet over a grudge. Ridiculous! Makes me think this Ingle guy belongs at the Daily Mail rather than the Guardian.

Yep, absolutely ridiculous.

The idea that there are 'Kenyan testers' is one of the daftest things I've heard all year.