Would you rather go Sub 4 in the mile or sub 27 in the 10k

And a 27:00 10k equals a 3:45.69 miles.

reformulated to where I'd take the sub 4:00 vs the

Idiot wrote:

Bill Oregon wrote:

I know it is very rare to have a sub 27 talent who couldn’t go sub 4 but let’s just say you were the anomaly in this situation. You only get one

One can accept your hypothetical but just so you and the ignorant masses are aware, the hypothetical is not possible.

It’s not possible? Well, you don’t have to go sub 4 pace to run sub 27 so it actually possible. Probable? No. But possible? Most definitely

Bill Oregon wrote:

Idiot wrote:

One can accept your hypothetical but just so you and the ignorant masses are aware, the hypothetical is not possible.

It’s not possible? Well, you don’t have to go sub 4 pace to run sub 27 so it actually possible. Probable? No. But possible? Most definitely

No not possible.

Sub 27 is super elite especially these days. Ridiculous question. At all the recent major champs sub 27 ability would get you on/close to the podium.

Just a reference for everybody- 113 people have gone sub 27, 4911 people have gone sub 4

58 people have run sub 27, not 113

Logical choice wrote:

I would take sub 27 because then I could get the sub four as well.

Yes

Pretty sure every man who ran sub 27 either has or could run sub 4.

Unequal equivalents wrote:

Bill Oregon wrote:

My friend and I were discussing which one we would rather do if we could only have 1. The 10k is much more impressive among runners but the mile is much more impressive among the general public. I choose 10k, you guys?

Sub 4:00? Meh. If you had set the bar at sub-3:50, then I would definitely have taken that. As it is, sub-27:00 is just so much more impressive so I’ll go with that.

If you count 1500m conversions, a LOT more people have run sub 3:50 equivalent miles than sub 27. A ton more.

(now of course high quality 10k's are not run a lot, and lot of the sub 27 talent has gone to the marathon in recent years, and yes, a sub 27 takes more out of you than a sub 3:50 mile, so....there's reasons for it. but the fact remains: sub 27 much rarer than sub 3:50 *equivalent* mile. fer sher. )

Star wrote:

58 people have run sub 27, not 113

Sorry, I meant 113 times not 113 people. Here’s the link for those interested:

Bill Oregon wrote:

Star wrote:

58 people have run sub 27, not 113

Sorry, I meant 113 times not 113 people. Here’s the link for those interested:

http://www.alltime-athletics.com/m_10kok.htm

I don't see Solinski's 26:59 on that list. Wonder how many other runs are missing.

.... never mind - I just saw it the second time around.

Sub 27

Sub 27 cause there’s a good chance that if I can run that fast for 10k I can probably also break 4.

As I have come close (now more than 20 years ago) with a 4:01.73 and 4:02.64, I would be inclined to say Sub-4, but many more people have gone sub-4 than sub 27. I would much rather be part of the smaller more elite group and say I've run under 27.

Conversation A

Guy 1: How'd your weekend go?

Guy 2: Awesome, I ran a 10K.

Guy 1: Oh cool, how'd you do?

Guy 2: I'm thrilled. I broke 27 minutes

Guy 1: Oh nice. I have this friend who runs marathons.

Conversation B

Guy 1: How'd your weekend go?

Guy 2: Awesome. I ran in a mile race.

Guy 1: Oh cool. I ran a couple miles this weekend and boned.

Let's be realistic you are not running Sub 27 in the 10,000m without being able to run Sub 4 in the Mile.

To give you an idea I ran 4:04 in the Mile and it got me a 29:05 10,000m.

Jeremy R wrote:

See above

You typed 8 characters to say this ... and the above post only had 7. Why didn't you just type out Sub 13 5K?

Are we talking like a 3:59 sub-4? Cause if so then definitely the sub-27. There has never been a sub 27 guy that isnt also a sub 4 miler. IF by the rules of this scenario I magically couldn't break 4 it would mean that I got significantly better the long the race went. If the slant on my chart was that drastic from mile to 10k, imagine what I could do at the marathon distance. I'd for sure be the first sub-2 guy. Sub-27 10 all the way!

The Sub 27 in the 10k because you will most likely make the Olympics, maybe even win the trials. Honestly on your best day you could steal a a medal at the world or Olympic championships. Plus you could give a crack at sub 13 in the 5k. With those times you are living comfortably $$$$$ and have a great training group around you.