John Utah wrote:
You are a helicopter parent. Stay out of it. If he’s throwing elbows then the boys will sort it out on their own. Don’t try to control everything.
Excellent response. The kids need to man up and give him some good, old-fashioned bullying. It will be a good lesson for all. It's high time to teach your little boy a strong right hook. Since when are kids such wimps?
I'm curious to know how you can cut a course at a big meet and cut multiple other courses and not get caught? In high school, my teammate and I were accused of cutting a course after getting lost and then fighting our way back to the lead and beating everyone. Perhaps there is some jealousy feeding into these claims? I would not accuse anyone unless you have proof.
As far as the elbows, personally, that's not something I would do to my teammates, because it's a freaking 3.1 mile run, not a mile. I would encourage the kids to speak up. That's a part of being a team: talking, joking, looking out for each other, interacting, disagreeing, making each other better, right? One of my proudest moments as an adult was finally finding my voice and speaking up for myself. Teach them now and it will help them in the future.
Might be hard indoor, but not impossible! Watch #11 throughout the 800 meter race.
John Utah wrote:
Best of luck.
Wrong. Leave kids alone. High school kids don’t need to be given yet another lecture. That kind of lecture to the team would be annoying and insulting to their intelligence. The Cheater already knows right from wrong. He is choosing to cheat, just like a cheating adult. Give him a warning and then kick him off the team if it happens again. As for elbows. Let the boys sort it out. That’s how life works.[/quote]
I agree with John Utah on this one. The kids needs a warned in front of all the kids or to be kicked off the team. It's so simple and straightforward. OR, the other runners need to have a talk on a team run or maybe even get in a little scuffle to sort it out. if my teammate was elbowing his own team, most of the crew would have probably kicked his ass or confronted him immediately. what an a-hole
I had a teammate who was always messing with us on runs, pushing us into trees, bushes, puddles and other runners - nothing seriously like this elbow kid though. He was a middle of the pack runner and usually kind of a funny kid , but other times just annoying and we didn't appreciate the potential to get injured by being pushed. One time a guy on my team was in a bad mood when this happened and pushed him back pretty hard and the kid fell on the curb and broke his wrist. It emboldened everyone in the moment to basically say he deserved it.
after that things were actually pretty friendly because he knew he deserved it and changed. he ended up being a 1:54 800m runner who was a really tough racer.
I'm surprised that this is an issue. Back i NC highschool, we would have full on fights against other teams in the woods during our races. Thats why we had our bruisers from football that joined the xc team sometimes for fun. They would clear a path for us(the top 5) and also chase down anyone that elbowed us. Hell, even our coach knew that.
One race, our top 5 and the rival school's top 5 were literally punching and pushing eachother in the woods. Our bruisers, if they were able to catch up for a second, sometimes would grab onto one of their guys, hold them down and pummel them. Sometimes their bruisers got us too. Again, this was all part of the game. After the race, there weren't any hard feelings.. It was pretty much understood that this was how to race.
100m wrote:
The kids need to man up and give him some good, old-fashioned bullying. It will be a good lesson for all. It's high time to teach your little boy a strong right hook. Since when are kids such wimps?
AnnoyedMom wrote:
We have an XC runner on my child's HS team. Several other runners shared stories and parents are now just hearing that this kid has (allegedly):
- elbowed team mates and other runners at the start of a race to push forward
- has targeted teammates during a race, elbowed teammates' ribs or stomach hard, to get and finish ahead of them as kid was vying for a spot on the school's State Team
- cut the course at the team trials and some meets including one very large, invitational meet that included top ranked teams in the country.
Parents & coaches, we would appreciate any advice from others that may have experienced similar situations on how this was handled. There is no proof of any of this, just what other runners have reported to their parents and with track starting and parents talk, too many are coming up with similar stories about the same runner to not try to do something about it for next season. TIA
Hmmmm, this unethical kid wouldn't be happen to be named Mike Rossi, Jr?
Trump is THE MAN wrote:
Evidently, unethical behavior is what makes America great again. So, rather than punishing this runner, he should be named captain! The other runners could really learn from this cat and further their chances for success in life.
Trump in 2020!!
Nope, for once crime didn’t pay. Crooked Clinton lost the election, again.
Your first step is to report it to the coach. Make sure you say that it IS a rumor but you thought that "You should know what might be happening on your team."
If it appears to keep happening do a follow up with the coach and ask that he/she reports the alleged problem to the AD. BTW, If it is a false claim then your child and others might be the issue. I can remember a time where a group on my team bullied someone in this way.
I remember in HS running against this one team in particular that had two big kids go out front with us. When we were out of site in the woods they tried to push us around. I came off a summer of working for a foundation contractor. We hauled heavy forms around every day. I laughed out loud when one of these clowns went after me and nearly fell to the ground trying to shove me. Both of them only lasted about 800 meters. Anyway, we had a good laugh after the race.
If it was a member of our own team we would have taken care of that. Those were different times though.
"sight"
AnnoyedMom wrote:
We have an XC runner on my child's HS team. Several other runners shared stories and parents are now just hearing that this kid has (allegedly):
- elbowed team mates and other runners at the start of a race to push forward
- has targeted teammates during a race, elbowed teammates' ribs or stomach hard, to get and finish ahead of them as kid was vying for a spot on the school's State Team
- cut the course at the team trials and some meets including one very large, invitational meet that included top ranked teams in the country.
Parents & coaches, we would appreciate any advice from others that may have experienced similar situations on how this was handled. There is no proof of any of this, just what other runners have reported to their parents and with track starting and parents talk, too many are coming up with similar stories about the same runner to not try to do something about it for next season. TIA
god mom, your sexy when you're mad... i don't even need 'pics', just keep tying please.
AnnoyedMom wrote:
We have an XC runner on my child's HS team. Several other runners shared stories and parents are now just hearing that this kid has (allegedly):
- elbowed team mates and other runners at the start of a race to push forward
- has targeted teammates during a race, elbowed teammates' ribs or stomach hard, to get and finish ahead of them as kid was vying for a spot on the school's State Team
- cut the course at the team trials and some meets including one very large, invitational meet that included top ranked teams in the country.
Parents & coaches, we would appreciate any advice from others that may have experienced similar situations on how this was handled. There is no proof of any of this, just what other runners have reported to their parents and with track starting and parents talk, too many are coming up with similar stories about the same runner to not try to do something about it for next season. TIA
High school is the age by which kids begin solving problems like this. If things are as you say, I would be surprised if the coach is not already dealing with it. If not, the team needs to confront this individual -or take it to the coach, either way, this is a great opportunity for a teenager to develop problem-solving skills.
How's it feel to know you parented a RAT? This wouldn't fly on my team. We would make sure that kid gets taken care of internally.
Gunner213 wrote:
He sounds like the extreme, edgier runner the IAAF has been waiting for! Don't stunt this kid's potential with your softness. Let the kid be.
This
1. Use gender neutral pronouns.
2. Make sure that none of the pre-race food has peanuts.
3. Don't trigger any of the runners.
4. Establish a safe space.
5. Make him acknowledge his paleness/privilege.
6. Take a knee before each starting line.
7. As a team watch several episodes of Gilmore Girls or the movie Happy Gilmore.
It will all work out.
AnnoyedMom wrote:
on my child's HS team
Unless you’ve raised a prodigy who skipped several elementary school grades and all of junior high, how do you have a “child” in high school?
I sure hope you don’t have to intervene in a few years when your “child” is on a college team and gets a hang nail.
[cue in “Apocalypse Now” soundtrack of rotor blades turning]
Surprised wrote:
I'm surprised that this is an issue. Back i NC highschool, we would have full on fights against other teams in the woods during our races. Thats why we had our bruisers from football that joined the xc team sometimes for fun. They would clear a path for us(the top 5) and also chase down anyone that elbowed us. Hell, even our coach knew that.
One race, our top 5 and the rival school's top 5 were literally punching and pushing eachother in the woods. Our bruisers, if they were able to catch up for a second, sometimes would grab onto one of their guys, hold them down and pummel them. Sometimes their bruisers got us too. Again, this was all part of the game. After the race, there weren't any hard feelings.. It was pretty much understood that this was how to race.
What? This has to be a joke
Also, OP is obviously trolling
"no proof ... just what other runners have reported to their parents" LOL Snitches get stitches! or better yet whiny b1tches get stitches!
I ran an indoor 5k in college where it was restarted 3x because of the number of people who went down in the first 50 meters. I had a bloody knee and shoe after getting spiked.
Toughen up or else HS track will become nothing more than individual time trials.
