Hhfbjk! wrote:
If a town xmas tree called a "holiday tree" shouldn't the town menorah be called the "town candle holder"?
No. Menorah isn’t the correct name already. It’s actually a Hanukkiah.
Hhfbjk! wrote:
If a town xmas tree called a "holiday tree" shouldn't the town menorah be called the "town candle holder"?
No. Menorah isn’t the correct name already. It’s actually a Hanukkiah.
Check the internet
#1 highest sexual abuse rate~~~The general population
#2 highest percentage of sexual abuse~~~all other religious denominations other than Catholic.
#3 The lowest percentage of sexual abuse belongs to~~~The Catholic Church.
Yet over and over again we hear people say, "that's why I quit the Catholic Church, or that's why I do not trust the Catholic Church because priests molest children." It's very ironic.
The real reason people quit the Catholic church is it takes too much DISCIPLINE for them. They want to do their own thing. As it is now the world has almost 7 billion religions because many people want to interpret the bible to suit their lifestyle. (I do not want to be a hypocrite here...the fact is I fall short too. Running can be a religion...anything can be a religion!)
But I have hope...I know I can be forgiven. Discipline is it's own reward.
However if we do not have a moral standard we all can go by, then anything and everything is okay! It's just your opinion against everyone else's!
The bible cannot tell us everything there is to know, any more than a book about electronics can tell you everything about that subject. A book about golf will come far short of telling all there is to know about that endeavor. That is why God gave us a brain. But to stand up and say the bible is wrong is foolish.
A 700 page book will not tell you everything you need to know but it can lay down a standard for behavior that we can all follow.
Star wrote:
I got married at my mother-in-law's church and I am not religious.
I was initially concerned about it.
It was a nice setting. It's just a building.
I was more concerned about the words used in the vowels but that worked out.
If we didn't have that connection we wouldn't have had the ceremony at any church.
The place was convenient.
My main question is, why are people religious after they are old enough to not believe in Santa Claus or the Easter bunny?
Probably because Jesus actually existed and Santa (St. Nicholas notwithstanding) and the Easter bunny didn't. Do you believe in Julius Caesar?
theJeff wrote:
Star wrote:
I got married at my mother-in-law's church and I am not religious.
I was initially concerned about it.
It was a nice setting. It's just a building.
I was more concerned about the words used in the vowels but that worked out.
If we didn't have that connection we wouldn't have had the ceremony at any church.
The place was convenient.
My main question is, why are people religious after they are old enough to not believe in Santa Claus or the Easter bunny?
Probably because Jesus actually existed and Santa (St. Nicholas notwithstanding) and the Easter bunny didn't. Do you believe in Julius Caesar?
Yes I have wondered why people will quote ancient Greeks but do not have any regard for
former Christians even though there is tons of physical evidence for the latter as well. (In fast most scholars including Atheists will tell you there is many multitudes more evidence for Jesus Christ than the Greeks.)
countertrolling jeff wrote:
theJeff wrote:
1. It's "WWJD".
2. I haven't read anything that leads me to believe that Jesus would allow the misuse of sacred objects/facilities/rites. What did Jesus do to the money-changers in the temple? Hint: it wasn't "turn the other cheek," because the context is completely different.
No, I said JC
You're not the arbiter of things.
Killing the actual son of God seems like a misuse of sacred objects but I understand you guys paint that a different way.
I agree. I don't see how we are worth the sacrifice. But I guess I am glad He saw it differently.
Boogie_Natts wrote:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=2m20s&v=Uke2kGDhqW0+
lol. Not quite, but funny.
If you want to REALLY learn religions, you need to watch South Park, not Family Guy.
theJeff wrote:
Boogie_Natts wrote:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=2m20s&v=Uke2kGDhqW0+lol. Not quite, but funny.
If you want to REALLY learn religions, you need to watch South Park, not Family Guy.
Ok, Mr. presumptuous know it all Christian, how about this:
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/thomas/gospelthomas56.htmlDo you really think you even comprehend one one thousandth of the actual sins committed by you and everyone around you to ten degrees out?
Haha.
1. I am merely a know-it-some.
2. The Gospel of Thomas is apocryphal.
3. I absolutely canNOT comprehend the depth of my own sin, much less that of others. Not sure what the relevance is, here, though.
I did just to do so for my wife. Ive got nothing against religions unless religious topics cross my path and affect my life.
If my late wife wanted to get married in a church that was fine with me...
I don't believe in any of it anyway and either way I got my wife.
Star wrote:
I was more concerned about the words used in the vowels but that worked out.
Yeah all that I.O.U. stuff got to me too.
Nice catch
I knew it was wrong when I typed it but posted it anyway.
I meant to say I was concerned about the vowels in the words.
You need a good ratio of consonants to make it sound right.
To the religious people:
Come on, you know the stories aren't true just because the people existed.
They are fables meant to teach lessons.
Star wrote:
Nice catch
I knew it was wrong when I typed it but posted it anyway.
I meant to say I was concerned about the vowels in the words.
You need a good ratio of consonants to make it sound right.
To the religious people:
Come on, you know the stories aren't true just because the people existed.
They are fables meant to teach lessons.
Star,
If they ARE just fables meant to teach lessons, but are divinely inspired, would that take away from the power of the texts?
Fwiw, I think you have a point. I mean, Jesus taught in parables; why couldn’t Moses, et al? I don’t think it would take away from the core message of Christ’s substitutionary atonement one bit.
Hardloper wrote:
In many cases it is much cheaper and better than other available venues. I had the opposite problem, would have preferred getting married in a church but none were available for weddings.
You’re MARRIED???!!!!
Mind = blown.
There’s hope for everyone out there I guess if Hardy, Nikeman, Flagpole and Rojo are all married.
RejectRunner wrote:
Is it just a cultural thing? Or is it because their parents are religious? I don't understand why they would marry in a dark, old, building instead of getting married in Vegas or something.
Vegas? How dull is that?
RejectRunner wrote:
Jeff, I know you are very religious and I respect that. We all find our own meanings in life. Religion can keep kids in order and be a good place to meet new people in an organization. BUT, you cant deny the numerous sexual abuse cases, terrorist agendas and hate it has caused the world. Do you honestly think the world would be worse if religion did not exist?
I have no idea what the world would be like without religion, but sex abuse cases are pretty rampant in youth sports. Should we do away with those?
There would be hate in the world regardless. Sometimes religion is used to justify the hate, but more often than not the issue is some resource that one party wants that another has.
waltertompatton wrote:
Check the internet
#1 highest sexual abuse rate~~~The general population
#2 highest percentage of sexual abuse~~~all other religious denominations other than Catholic.
#3 The lowest percentage of sexual abuse belongs to~~~The Catholic Church.
Yet over and over again we hear people say, "that's why I quit the Catholic Church, or that's why I do not trust the Catholic Church because priests molest children." It's very ironic.
The real reason people quit the Catholic church is it takes too much DISCIPLINE for them. They want to do their own thing. As it is now the world has almost 7 billion religions because many people want to interpret the bible to suit their lifestyle. (I do not want to be a hypocrite here...the fact is I fall short too. Running can be a religion...anything can be a religion!)
But I have hope...I know I can be forgiven. Discipline is it's own reward.
However if we do not have a moral standard we all can go by, then anything and everything is okay! It's just your opinion against everyone else's!
The bible cannot tell us everything there is to know, any more than a book about electronics can tell you everything about that subject. A book about golf will come far short of telling all there is to know about that endeavor. That is why God gave us a brain. But to stand up and say the bible is wrong is foolish.
A 700 page book will not tell you everything you need to know but it can lay down a standard for behavior that we can all follow.
This assumes that you cannot have morality without religion. Standards vary from culture to culture. A prime example is the age of consent when it comes to sex.
An issue with the Bible is that it man has edited it and chosen what goes in it and what stays out. I think as an allegory the Bible is just fine, but when people use it to say we lived with the dinosaurs and the Earth is only 6000 years old then I have serious issues with it.
A rule book on golf certainly can tell you everything you need to know about the rules and the contradictions are few. (Yes rules change in sport just as they do in life).
theJeff wrote:
Star wrote:
I got married at my mother-in-law's church and I am not religious.
I was initially concerned about it.
It was a nice setting. It's just a building.
I was more concerned about the words used in the vowels but that worked out.
If we didn't have that connection we wouldn't have had the ceremony at any church.
The place was convenient.
My main question is, why are people religious after they are old enough to not believe in Santa Claus or the Easter bunny?
Probably because Jesus actually existed and Santa (St. Nicholas notwithstanding) and the Easter bunny didn't. Do you believe in Julius Caesar?
But was Jesus the Son of God or a rebellious prophet? (I will go with the latter).
waltertompatton wrote:
theJeff wrote:
Probably because Jesus actually existed and Santa (St. Nicholas notwithstanding) and the Easter bunny didn't. Do you believe in Julius Caesar?
Yes I have wondered why people will quote ancient Greeks but do not have any regard for
former Christians even though there is tons of physical evidence for the latter as well. (In fast most scholars including Atheists will tell you there is many multitudes more evidence for Jesus Christ than the Greeks.)
A philosophy prof in college was the first person who talked about how Socrates and others might not have been one person but several people who wrote under that name (sort of like Dear Abby).
theJeff wrote:
Star wrote:
I got married at my mother-in-law's church and I am not religious.
I was initially concerned about it.
It was a nice setting. It's just a building.
I was more concerned about the words used in the vowels but that worked out.
If we didn't have that connection we wouldn't have had the ceremony at any church.
The place was convenient.
My main question is, why are people religious after they are old enough to not believe in Santa Claus or the Easter bunny?
Probably because Jesus actually existed and Santa (St. Nicholas notwithstanding) and the Easter bunny didn't. Do you believe in Julius Caesar?
But how do you know he was all that?