Because I'm in Fukuoka, at 5 o'clock in the morning, not sleeping for the jet-lag of 8 hours (6 hours from Kenya). I had nothing to do, and need to waste my time before breakfast.
There is no better way to wasting time than to post some stupidity on Letsrun.
Renato Canova wrote:
There is no better way to wasting time than to post some stupidity on Letsrun.
Put this on a shirt and watch the masses buy it.
Maybe a waste of time but still pretty insightful, thanks ! So you're 150th in Kenya with 2h12' wow...you could win quite a few marathons in Europe with that time, but not worthwhile financially I suppose.
So anyway, anyone else see Karoki get this ?
Renato Canova wrote:
There is no better way to wasting time than to post some stupidity on Letsrun.
This should be the "quote of the day."
Renato Canova wrote:
Jan, I never had any contract with any athlete. Who told you something like this is a lier and a cheater, and probably tried to refuse their offer to coach him with some excuse, for not offending you.
This is a widespread behavior of many Kenyans, who never said YES or NOT, but always MAYBE. So, at the end, they need to find some excuse for escaping from the confusion they provoked, and this is exactly one of the main reasons because it's not possible to coach anybody on line without being frequently on the place.
Sometimes I meet some athletes, for me unknown, who comes to me telling "Coach, your program is very good", and I ask him "excuse me, but who are you ?", and his answer is "Don't you remember me ? 10 years ago you wrote for me a program, which I continue to use" (maybe it was a program for two weeks, and after never I met this athlete again).
These are not World Class athletes, but frequently are athletes running marathon between 2:09 and 2:12, not connected with any management, and changing training group several times every year.
Last year, with 2:12, a runner was in position 150 in Kenya. These are the only "World Class" athletes you can coach online, but the real World Class is something different...
The runner is no Kenyan. It`s El Abbassi ,Bahrain. Then he is a lier? No contract and coaching of him before , and no new full program you sent to him? That some runners don`t speak the truth I have seen, but sooner or later I found out. That`s one problem with online coaching, one never knows up to 100% if the runner tells the truth , but with my experience and knowledge about paces and so on, they expose themselves sooner or later. Let me put it this way.......online coaching is no problem at any level of the runner, as long as the runner tells the truth.
Renato Canova wrote:
Jan, I never had any contract with any athlete. Who told you something like this is a lier and a cheater, and probably tried to refuse their offer to coach him with some excuse, for not offending you.
This is a widespread behavior of many Kenyans, who never said YES or NOT, but always MAYBE. So, at the end, they need to find some excuse for escaping from the confusion they provoked, and this is exactly one of the main reasons because it's not possible to coach anybody on line without being frequently on the place.
Sometimes I meet some athletes, for me unknown, who comes to me telling "Coach, your program is very good", and I ask him "excuse me, but who are you ?", and his answer is "Don't you remember me ? 10 years ago you wrote for me a program, which I continue to use" (maybe it was a program for two weeks, and after never I met this athlete again).
These are not World Class athletes, but frequently are athletes running marathon between 2:09 and 2:12, not connected with any management, and changing training group several times every year.
Last year, with 2:12, a runner was in position 150 in Kenya. These are the only "World Class" athletes you can coach online, but the real World Class is something different...
Renato, Just add that I didn`t ask him to be coaching him. He first contacted me to ask if I could be his coach.
Anyway this is a thread about Fukuoka tomorrow, and I think Karoki should have a good chance of winning it.....but of course I hope most for my own coached runner in the field that can be a big surprise winner....but he is not ready for 2.05 yet ,more like sub 2.08, and I think it will be necessary to run around 2.05-2.06 to take the win.
Jan, I never spoke in my life with El Abbassi, I never met him, and I'm not able to recognize him, if I meet. Literally, I don't know who is, apart knowing his results, and clearly I don't know why he lied to you (I suppose he is coached by Al Asmari, since the athletes of Bahrein have yearly training camp in Kapsabet under his coaching).
Renato Canova wrote:
Jan, I never spoke in my life with El Abbassi, I never met him, and I'm not able to recognize him, if I meet. Literally, I don't know who is, apart knowing his results, and clearly I don't know why he lied to you (I suppose he is coached by Al Asmari, since the athletes of Bahrein have yearly training camp in Kapsabet under his coaching).
Will be interesting to see if the Japanese runners can be a main force for the win this time. Sooner or later they will have
a new marathon world top runner.
Reply is for OP. Is it live stream'd online for free? Last year I put up with twitter updates from some guy that lives there. Seriously, someone should live stream this and CIM. I guess it's too expensive even for FloTrack? I'd be willing to pay for it if they had good coverage.
NERunner053 wrote:
There is plenty of marathon action this weekend but not much coverage on the homepage. Good men's previews up at Citius Mag for the US Champs at CIM. Fukuoka is also the same day. Elite fields below. Some big names including Kiprotich, Rutto, Karoki, Kawuchi, Osako and a debut for Jake Robertson. A lotta Japanese runners trying to run fast with the wild criteria for getting into their Olympic Trials race. Who you got?
Stephen Kiprotich (Uganda) - 2:06:33 (Tokyo 2015)
Lani Rutto (Kenya) - 2:06:34 (Frankfurt 2015)
Bedan Karoki (Kenya/DeNA) - 2:07:41 (London 2017)
Amanuel Mesel (Eritrea) - 2:08:18 (Warsaw 2015)
Yemane Tsegay (Ethiopia) - 2:08:48 (Fukuoka International 2016)
Ser-Od Bat-Ochir (Mongolia/NTN) - 2:08:50 (Fukuoka International 2014)
Satoru Sasaki (Japan/Asahi Kasei) - 2:08:56 (Fukuoka International 2015)
Yuki Kawauchi (Japan/Saitama Pref. Gov't) - 2:09:01 (Gold Coast 2016)
Melaku Abera (Ethiopia/Kurosaki Harima) - 2:09:27 (Beppu-Oita 2016)
Takuya Fukatsu (Japan/Asahi Kasei) - 2:09:31 (Biwako 2016)
Fumihiro Maruyama (Japan/Asaki Kasei) - 2:09:36 (Biwako 2016)
Chiharu Takada (Japan/JR Higashi Nihon) - 2:10:03 (Fukuoka International 2014)
Sondre Moen (Norway) - 2:10:07 (Hannover 2017)
Suguru Osako (Japan/Nike Oregon Project) - 2:10:28a (Boston 2017)
Hayato Sonoda (Japan/Kurosaki Harima) - 2:10:40 (Fukuoka International 2016)
Taiga Ito (Japan/Suzuki Hamamatsu AC) - 2:10:52 (Beppu-Oita 2017)
Paulo Roberto Paula (Brazil) - 2:11:02 (Fukuoka International 2015)
Michael Githae (Kenya/Suzuki Hamamatsu AC) - 2:11:40 (Shizuoka 2017)
Kohei Ogino (Japan/Fujitsu) - 2:11:42a (Nagano 2015)
Kazuhiro Maeda (Japan/Kyudenko) - 2:11:46 (Biwako 2015)
Tadashi Suzuki (Japan/Suzuki Hamamatsu AC) - 2:12:09 (Shizuoka 2017)
Yuki Sato (Japan/Nissin Shokuhin) - 2:12:14 (London 2016)
Kazuya Ishida (Japan/Nishitetsu) - 2:12:25 (Beppu-Oita 2016)
Keisuke Kusaka (Japan/Hitachi Butsuryu) - 2:12:42 (Beppu-Oita 2017)
Daisuke Uekado (Japan/Otsuka Seiyaku) - 2:12:58 (Biwako 2017)
Yoshiki Takenouchi (NTT Nishi Nihon) - 2:13:33 (Biwako 2017)
Yuki Munakata (Kanebo) - 2:13:53 (Beppu-Oita 2016)
Tyler Pennell (U.S.A.) - 2:14:57 (L.A. Olympic Trials 2017)
Yusuke Tobimatsu (Hioki City Hall) - 2:15:32 (Kagoshima 2017)
Kazuki Tomaru (Toyota) - 2:18:39 (Fukuoka International 2015)
Do-Over
Teklemariam Medhin (Eritrea) - 2:22:36 (Tokyo 2016)
Collis Birmingham (Australia) - 1:02:01 (Marugame Half 2016)
Debut
Jake Robertson (New Zealand) - 1:00:01 (Lisbon Half 2017)
Charles Ndirangu (Kenya/JFE Steel) - 1:00:18 (National Corporate Half 2015)
Daichi Kamino - 1:01:04 (Japan/Marugame Half 2017)
Keita Shitara (Japan/Hitachi Butsuryu) - 1:01:12 (National Corporate Half 2015)
Editor's note: Japan Running News has a nice preview of Fukuokoa that includes streaming information. We'be added the link below and changed this to the official Fukuoka thread. The TV broadcast starts at 10 pm ET with the race starting at 10:10 pm ET.
http://japanrunningnews.blogspot.com/2017/12/36-views-of-fukuoka-preview.htmlCitius mag has a nice preview of US Marathon champs.
http://citiusmag.com/usatf-marathon-championships-mens-preview/http://citiusmag.com/usatf-marathon-championships-womens-preview/
Inside info. The pacemakers will run 1:03 for the first half and same pace up to 30 km.
And they have some pretty good pacemakers too, including Kipserem who won Rotterdam 2016 in 2:06:11 !
I was worried not to see Karoki here
http://www.fukuoka-marathon.com/en/entry.html
but then I remembered he lived in Japan so he's not "overseas" :
http://www.fukuoka-marathon.com/en/entry2.html
Well I will have to check the results tomorrow morning with the lack of streaming :-(
Renato Canova wrote:
Jan, I never spoke in my life with El Abbassi, I never met him, and I'm not able to recognize him, if I meet. Literally, I don't know who is, apart knowing his results, and clearly I don't know why he lied to you (I suppose he is coached by Al Asmari, since the athletes of Bahrein have yearly training camp in Kapsabet under his coaching).
Renato, Jan (JS) is a troll and a mental case. You are wasting your time talking to him. There is something wrong with him in the head. He thinks he is a world-class coach but spends hours a day here begging to coach anyone.
Osako for the win in 2hr07m16. Heard it here first..
he is an idiot wrote:
Renato Canova wrote:
Jan, I never spoke in my life with El Abbassi, I never met him, and I'm not able to recognize him, if I meet. Literally, I don't know who is, apart knowing his results, and clearly I don't know why he lied to you (I suppose he is coached by Al Asmari, since the athletes of Bahrein have yearly training camp in Kapsabet under his coaching).
Renato, Jan (JS) is a troll and a mental case. You are wasting your time talking to him. There is something wrong with him in the head. He thinks he is a world-class coach but spends hours a day here begging to coach anyone.
Hahaha! I tell you something.....
An idiot would have the chance of 0 % to coach 9 international winners . And I`m not begging to coach anyone. Even my time is limited. When "my" first medal winner will come in an international championship people who didn`t believe in my system will change their minds.
he is an idiot wrote:
Renato Canova wrote:
Jan, I never spoke in my life with El Abbassi, I never met him, and I'm not able to recognize him, if I meet. Literally, I don't know who is, apart knowing his results, and clearly I don't know why he lied to you (I suppose he is coached by Al Asmari, since the athletes of Bahrein have yearly training camp in Kapsabet under his coaching).
Renato, Jan (JS) is a troll and a mental case. You are wasting your time talking to him. There is something wrong with him in the head. He thinks he is a world-class coach but spends hours a day here begging to coach anyone.
Yes, second this, don't waste your time.
I too am rooting for the 'Mongoloid'.
Are you the coach of Festus Talam ...?
500m wrote:
Are you the coach of Festus Talam ...?
No :)
race starting now, I believe. Anyone having any luck finding an international live stream??
livestream?