How should you feel during high milage?

With all due respect, and I mean that genuinely, a 33% increase is a significant jump for most athletes. The experience of one runner really can't be used as the basis for what others should expect. I did exactly that jump when I moved up to the marathon in my early 40s. I survived, but there were a lot of PT visits and massages, and a little bit of luck, involved.

The day that going out the door in the dark, cold rain seems completely ordinary to you then that's the day you can call yourself a runner.

If you are dreading the task ahead of you, or are compelled to boast about your "self discipline" because of your cold and dark morning runs, then you are still a work in progress. Self discipline in the norm in training.

If you think you're special then you're not. If you don't think you're special then your are.

Does that make sense to you?

Smoove wrote:

With all due respect, and I mean that genuinely, a 33% increase is a significant jump for most athletes. The experience of one runner really can't be used as the basis for what others should expect. I did exactly that jump when I moved up to the marathon in my early 40s. I survived, but there were a lot of PT visits and massages, and a little bit of luck, involved.

PT and massages are for people who've already let their inner badass out. Other than that it's a superfluous distraction.

malmo wrote:

Smoove wrote:

With all due respect, and I mean that genuinely, a 33% increase is a significant jump for most athletes. The experience of one runner really can't be used as the basis for what others should expect. I did exactly that jump when I moved up to the marathon in my early 40s. I survived, but there were a lot of PT visits and massages, and a little bit of luck, involved.

PT and massages are for people who've already let their inner badass out. Other than that it's a superfluous distraction.

Didn't you quit running nearly 30 years ago? Massage is great for older runners.

malmo wrote:

The day that going out the door in the dark, cold rain seems completely ordinary to you then that's the day you can call yourself a runner.

If you are dreading the task ahead of you, or are compelled to boast about your "self discipline" because of your cold and dark morning runs, then you are still a work in progress. Self discipline in the norm in training.

If you think you're special then you're not. If you don't think you're special then your are.

Does that make sense to you?

Word

You should listen to malmo and realize 60 to 80mpw isn't a big jump.

Have you run 12 miles in one day? That's 84 mpw for one day.

If you run 40 miles one week and 80 miles the next, are you a 40mpw runner, a 60 mpw runner, or an 80 mpw runner? Does it matter?

malmo wrote:

Croze wrote:

Hi! I've recently upped my milage a bit, from from 60 miles to 80 miles, my legs are tired but overall I don't feel physically tired nor any signs of exhaustion. Is this an indicator either my easy days or hard days are too easy??

This is exactly how it should feel. 60 to 80 isn't much of a jump. 60 to 100 is enough that your general daily fatigue will be more, however, as you improve fitness this will go away.

Good luck.

Ok, thanks. I'm an 800m runner and probably will never reach 100 miles a week. Hard to know the correct milage for an 800m runner though it seems..

malmo wrote:

RetiredCollegiateDood wrote:

You easy pace in runs should be slower than usual until your body adapts to the extra mileage. .

This is wrong. Easy is a pace that doesn't change with the distance run.

Well, in my experience, I am not a machine. When I am running less mileage (tapering back) my body naturally goes faster on easy days because they fell good. On the contrary, when I am ramping up the mileage it is normal for my first couple miles to be quite a bit slower till I warm up thus giving a slower average.

RetiredCollegiateDood wrote:

malmo wrote:

This is wrong. Easy is a pace that doesn't change with the distance run.

Well, in my experience, I am not a machine. When I am running less mileage (tapering back) my body naturally goes faster on easy days because they fell good. On the contrary, when I am ramping up the mileage it is normal for my first couple miles to be quite a bit slower till I warm up thus giving a slower average.

Not trying to bust your chops but if you are (tapering back)and are running your easy runs faster, are you really tapering correctly? I did this too and I feel it may have cut into my race performances.

If you hadn't thought you were special but then read this comment and begin thinking that you are special because you hadn't thought you were special, where does that leave you?

Not seeing any reel improvements from the increased milage. Its been about two months with more milage than ever before, threshold intervals doesn't really improve..