We still do have such scientists, they are just not as heralded in public for a variety of reasons, one being that we are so much more aware of science in so many varied areas being done. Janet Fender in example has done some amazing work in actual science and science policy alike but you never hear about her unless you're in the Air Force, NASA, or an aviation geek.
Hmmm..... wrote:
All the good stuff has been done.
They were probably saying this right before Newton came along.
All the low-hanging fruit has already been discovered. Any discoveries now are either incremental, or in fields like quantum physics that very few people can understand in even a general sense.
And Edison wasn't really a scientist, he mostly used trial and error. The fact that he was able to come up with so many life-changing inventions in this way tells you that there was still a lot to be discovered back then.
NO AC wrote:
SAlly V wrote:Indeed. But would you put him up there with Newton, Galileo or Plank?
What? Without Tesla there is no Alternating Current and no Wireless.
OMG. I guess you and Sally need it spelled out for you. HardLoper was making a joke. Nikola Tesla has been dead for a long time. Elon Musk has a company called Tesla that is working on autonomous vehicles.
gotten good wrote:
NO AC wrote:What? Without Tesla there is no Alternating Current and no Wireless.
OMG. I guess you and Sally need it spelled out for you. HardLoper was making a joke. Nikola Tesla has been dead for a long time. Elon Musk has a company called Tesla that is working on autonomous vehicles.
If you explain the joke, it isn't funny anymore.
random6 wrote:
I could see historian in the future putting Jobs and Gates on that list.
Jobs and Gates are world class inventors/engineers. I think the OP is looking for scientific discoveries. In the case of computers that honor would go to Bardeen, Brattain, and Shockley who discovered/invented the transistor. They belong on the list of scientists who changed the world.
DiscoGary wrote:
random6 wrote:I could see historian in the future putting Jobs and Gates on that list.
Jobs and Gates are world class inventors/engineers. I think the OP is looking for scientific discoveries. In the case of computers that honor would go to Bardeen, Brattain, and Shockley who discovered/invented the transistor. They belong on the list of scientists who changed the world.
False. The transistor was discovered in the wreckage of the Roswell, NM 1947 UFO crash. Not many people will tell you that. (In other words, the aliens brought the transistor to us.)
http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2014/01/philip-corso-and-day-after-roswell-again.htmlasdsdf wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:Jobs and Gates are world class inventors/engineers. I think the OP is looking for scientific discoveries. In the case of computers that honor would go to Bardeen, Brattain, and Shockley who discovered/invented the transistor. They belong on the list of scientists who changed the world.
False. The transistor was discovered in the wreckage of the Roswell, NM 1947 UFO crash. Not many people will tell you that. (In other words, the aliens brought the transistor to us.)
http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2014/01/philip-corso-and-day-after-roswell-again.html
False. The transistor was first discovered in the control unit of a destroyed Terminator which came from the future, so no one can take credit for it.
Philo Farnsworth invented the television when he was 14 years old. He must have been an alien.
George Church
Jennifer Doudna
The problem is that contemporary scientists don't often get accolades and become household names until long after their work.
Does anyone here know Fred Sanger?
I also second Norman Borlaug.
gotten good wrote:
NO AC wrote:What? Without Tesla there is no Alternating Current and no Wireless.
OMG. I guess you and Sally need it spelled out for you. HardLoper was making a joke.
Hi, jamin!!!! :-)
stoop to their level wrote:
gotten good wrote:OMG. I guess you and Sally need it spelled out for you. HardLoper was making a joke. Nikola Tesla has been dead for a long time. Elon Musk has a company called Tesla that is working on autonomous vehicles.
If you explain the joke, it isn't funny anymore.
Especially when a joke wasn't made by jamin's BFF Hardloper. Neither of their IQs is over 80.
Cecil Paine
James Watson
Philo Farnsworth
Gregory Pincus
Tim Berners-Lee
Lise Meitner / Otto Frisch
DiscoGary wrote:
random6 wrote:I could see historian in the future putting Jobs and Gates on that list.
Jobs and Gates are world class inventors/engineers. I think the OP is looking for scientific discoveries. In the case of computers that honor would go to Bardeen, Brattain, and Shockley who discovered/invented the transistor. They belong on the list of scientists who changed the world.
False.
Jobs and Gates are/were world class businessmen and salesmen. They most definitely are/were NOT top engineers or inventors.
Neil Tyson DeGrasse
One answer sprang to mind: Al Gore
Gore didn't invent lying, but he certainly perfected it.
Uhm, ever heard of Sheldon Cooper?
This Man wrote:
Citizen Runner wrote:Because of the complexity of many recent breakthroughs science is probably more evolutionary than revolutionary and more team oriented than during the enlightenment. Thus scientists tend to be anonymous outside of their expert group.
For example, recent advances in gene editing are a pretty big deal, but I couldn't name names of those who have made it reality.
This ^
Once again demonstrating that Citizen Runner is among the best posters on LRC.
Agreed. There are far far more people involved in revolutionary advances like CRISPR-Cas9 than in breakthroughs of the 1900s.
However, Jennifer Doudna should be a household name to the well-informed.
DiscoGary wrote:
random6 wrote:I could see historian in the future putting Jobs and Gates on that list.
Jobs and Gates are world class inventors/engineers. I think the OP is looking for scientific discoveries. In the case of computers that honor would go to Bardeen, Brattain, and Shockley who discovered/invented the transistor. They belong on the list of scientists who changed the world.
moran
jobs and gates are mediocre, at best, engineers
they were salesmen and businessmen
gates stole DOS and rebranded it MS-DOS and did a heck of a sales and marketing job with a crap product, which he neither developed or maintained, much less enhanced
anti moran wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:Jobs and Gates are world class inventors/engineers. I think the OP is looking for scientific discoveries. In the case of computers that honor would go to Bardeen, Brattain, and Shockley who discovered/invented the transistor. They belong on the list of scientists who changed the world.
moran
jobs and gates are mediocre, at best, engineers
they were salesmen and businessmen
gates stole DOS and rebranded it MS-DOS and did a heck of a sales and marketing job with a crap product, which he neither developed or maintained, much less enhanced
Nope. Gates was a world class engineer and a world class businessman. Gates bought DOS, he didn't steal it.
Jobs was a world class "systems" engineer, in that he knew what the whole product need to look like.
Respect must be given where respect is due.