Maybe it was meant as meaning "Sorry dude, but I have to keep rolling here!" Anyway, it was a definite gesture, even if tough to translate exactly. He really had this locked up with six miles to go, pretty darned phenomenal.
Maybe it was meant as meaning "Sorry dude, but I have to keep rolling here!" Anyway, it was a definite gesture, even if tough to translate exactly. He really had this locked up with six miles to go, pretty darned phenomenal.
Was that McChesney in the lead until Steve and John went around him?
Looked to me like he was gesturing for Rotich to 'come on up here with me'.
i agree.it was more like a, "come on buddy, try to keep up, let's go, thank you for helping out with the work today, good luck, hang in there. i can't do much more than this silly grab wave because i'm running 4:45 pace and trying to win a major marathon and we've been racing for 90 minutes"or he could have meant, "Hmmm, i wonder if ritz is done? He sure made me think he'd have an amazing performace today based on what he said to the press."
markschultz25 wrote:
Dastardly Deed wrote:That was seriously one of the most impressive things I've seen in 45 years of running. Just crushed it.
You're reading too much into that hand gesture. That wasn't a wave.
He's working on his Señor Wences.
We may be seeing the next Wanjiru, he runs like a welterweight....hopefully with better judgment outside of running.
80s kid wrote:
are you ventolin? wrote:Steve Ovett did this in dozens of races.
Like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVxxaj1j9nE
I love that video
songsta wrote:
is the wave at 1:27:50+ on this clip?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhw_XYBsO30
Who does he pass at 1:29:00-1:29:25 (youtube time) on that clip? Runner wearing full sweats. Sub-elite, bandit, or early starter who paid extra to start? Wasn't it warm?
Emma Nordling, Swe, who ran a significant PR in the 2:40's. Kind of bizarre.
passed a bandit? wrote:
songsta wrote:is the wave at 1:27:50+ on this clip?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhw_XYBsO30Who does he pass at 1:29:00-1:29:25 (youtube time) on that clip? Runner wearing full sweats. Sub-elite, bandit, or early starter who paid extra to start? Wasn't it warm?
You Said It wrote:
The Overexplainer wrote:Before EPO, only Aouita was able to break a British WR and he only did it in the 1500m.
Aouita also broke Moorcroft's 5000m WR.
We were talking about the "weak" non-African competition that Ovett faced that allowed him to wave as he took off. So I was just setting the stage for the competition he faced in the 800/1500 that allowed that. I was being sarcastic also.
Aouita was not only an African but a multi-time WR-setter also. He did not compete in the '80 Olympics (the races I was citing) but you are right, he WAS part of the greatest compatitive era in the mile, and he race Ovett a few times in his prime, notably in the '83 WC (which Cram won).
Steve Cram was not that good though ...
800m -- 80 1:42.88 Steve Cram GBR 14.10.60 1rA Zürich 21.08.1985 (4th fastest performer and 5th performance all-time)
1000m -- 4 2:12.88 Steve Cram GBR 14.10.60 1 Gateshead 09.08.1985 (2nd fastest all-time performer and performance)
1500m -- 75 3:29.67 Steve Cram GBR 14.10.60 1 Nice 16.07.1985 (WR - his first)
Mile -- 11 3:46.32 Steve Cram GBR 14.10.60 1 Oslo 27.07.1985 (WR - his second)
2000m -- 14 4:51.39 Steve Cram GBR 14.10.60 1 Budapest 04.08.1985 (WR - his third at the same time)
Did anyone else put together a set of WRs at such distances besides Seb Coe, Ovett (he only did it at 1500/mile), and Said Aouita?
No, and if EPO had been available at that time they all would have been top-3-5 NOW and at 3:26-3:27. And all four of them ran in the same era. Add in Steve Scott, Luis Gonzalez, Abascal, Wessinghage, and 5-10 others.
Weak non-African competition indeed. Ovett was so lucky no?
I was wrong.
I overlooked that El Gherrouj (the greatest ever miler) put together just the same set of WRs over the same distances (1500m/Mile/2000m). However, he was nowhere near the greats in the 800m and 1000m (like Cram and Coe and Aouita). He did, however, put together better 3000m times than the men from the early 80's.
It wasnt a wave goodbye, he was just annoyed Rotich didnt go with him to share the pace a bit longer.
are you ventolin? wrote:
Steve Ovett did this in dozens of races.
Where did that get him during that race against John Treacy? Yeah, I know he didn't wave goodbye to him but he might as well have.
He was actually waving goodbye to Ms. Grunnagle. He did this to each of the women he passed on the course.
To truly be the baller move of the year, he would have had to turn around and say "gobble gobble MF'ers!"